If you've got a tank for suction, pipe back to a separate flange on the tank
and it needs to be piped to the far side from the vortex plate/suction
nozzle.
We've had a year of problems with one where we were forced to pipe to
suction due to imposition of GREEN requirements- after the tank was erected.
The warm (hot?) water caused by the recirculation ended up fooling engine
sensors into reporting injector problems when there weren't any.
The hassle certainly hasn't been worth the cost of the sep flange and piping
to far side, and we'd be thinking of dumping the tank and adding one if we
didn't have the alternative solution of retrofitting a PLD to control over
pressurization on churn during weekly test runs- not that retrofitting has
been an easy path, but that's another story for over a beer at convention.

glc

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Fire pump meter loop

To test the flow meter ??????  I believe the typical arrangement is for the
flow meter discharge is back to the suction thus the full flow test
requirement is to check the water supply.  I like the flow meter in-line
with a test header but this is not done often.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sornsin <[email protected]>
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:55:35
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
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Subject: RE: Fire pump meter loop

You are correct. Although I think officially it is not necessarily a test
header, but rather "A fire pump installation shall be arranged to allow the
test of the pump at its rated conditions as well as the suction supply at
the maximum flow available from the fire pump." (20-5.19.1.1, 2007 ed.).
I.e., if you have hose connections on a standpipe  - or maybe hydrants
connected to the pump - that would allow for proper flow testing, you
wouldn't need the test header. Like George just said.

The 'actual' flow testing is done periodically to verify that the flow meter
is functioning properly.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE | Fire Protection Engineer Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
|Fargo, ND
Direct:    701. 280.8591 | www.ulteig.com


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:39 AM
To: Afsa
Subject: Fire pump meter loop

I seem to recall that if you have a meter loop on a fire pump, you are still
required to install a pump test header, and do a discharge test every 5
years, but I can't seem to find it in 20. Is this correct?

Jamie
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