How's that working out? Lots of employment? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > It is not you (in this case). Which is why several states allow the local > officials to only enforce the Code, not modify it. > > There was a town in Turkey several years ago that found out from geologists > that a major fault line runs through the town. They were told that they > could be subject to severe earthquakes. The town council met to decide what > to do and they unanimously voted to relocate the fault line. > > > At 10:12 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote: >> >> Is it just me, or is it because one spends more time with the big >> national models than the local ordinances that make it seem that the >> smaller the level of government is the less sense these codes make? >> "When two vehicles arrive at a crossroads at the same time neither >> shall proceed until the other is gone." >> >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:02 AM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Thanks for the reply. The building code I need to comply with is a >> > little >> > bit different. Under the main heading of "Automatic Sprinkler Systems" >> > the >> > following sentences are given: >> > >> > (1) Except as permitted by Sentence (2), (3) and (4), an automatic >> > sprinkler >> > system shall be designed, constructed, installed and tested in >> > conformance >> > with NFPA 13, "Installation of Sprinkler Systems". >> > (2) .... >> > (3) .... >> > (4) If a building contains fewer than 9 sprinklers, the water supply for >> > these sprinklers is permitted to be supplied from the domestic water >> > system >> > for the building provided the required flow for the sprinklers can be >> > met by >> > the domestic system. >> > (5) If a water supply serves both an automatic sprinkler system and a >> > system >> > serving other equipment, control valves shall be provided so that either >> > system can be shut off independently. >> > >> > Sentence (2) & (3) pertain to the application of 13R and 13D. >> > >> > My question is more to do with building code interpretation rather than >> > technical. Won't sentence (5) supercede sentence (4) and also require >> > separate control valve for both sprinklers and domestic supply? Or due >> > to >> > sentence (4), will the domestic supply be not considered "a system >> > serving >> > other equipment" as given on sentence (5)? >> > >> > I realize sentence (4) does not make sense if sentence (5) requires >> > separate >> > control valves for both "fewer than 9 sprinklers" and "9 and over >> > sprinklers". But I would also like opinions of others. >> > >> > Tony >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland >> > Huggins >> > Sent: October 15, 2010 4:12 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Domestic Supply >> > >> > look at IBC 903.3.5.1: No more than 20 sprinklers AND you still have to >> > verify discharge with hydraulic calculations. NFPA 13 also touches the >> > subject and effectively says apply portions of 13 as required by the >> > AHJ. >> > 903.4 identifies that monitoring is NOT required. >> > >> > Roland >> > >> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, A.P.Silva wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Local by-laws require the locker room and garbage room of a >> >> residential building to be sprinklered. So about 9 heads required. The >> >> architect wants sprinkler system to be connected to the domestic cold >> >> water line. I know it's not a good idea due to non-fire valves, water >> >> meters and alarm requirements. Pro's and con's? Any specific code >> >> section prohibiting it? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Tony >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> >> to:[email protected] >> >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > >> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > to:[email protected] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > >> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > to:[email protected] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ron Greenman >> Instructor >> Fire Protection Engineering Technology >> Bates Technical College >> 1101 So. 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