There was a project in the Mid Atlantic region in which the Architect specified 
"Institutional" QR heads in a "mid rise" student housing building. Three days 
after the students moved in there was a fairly large water damage claim 
resulting from damage to the "Institutional" sprinklers from the students 
throwing around balls, etc. Needless to say it occurred on the top floor level 
and flowed downhill. Institutional type sprinkler heads should be used in the 
occupancy that they were designed for. 

The last frat house that we worked on the Owner wanted the pipe to be able to 
support at least five times the weight of the water filled pipe plus 500 pounds 
and wanted the strongest head guard that is manufactured to be used on all 
sprinkler heads in the frat house and wanted all pipe to be scheduled 40.   

Jim Davidson 
 
Davidson Associates 
Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting  
302-994-9500   Fax:302-234-1781


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: QR sprinklers in R2 occupancy

Yep it is a frat house.  I am trying to convince the arch to go with the
concealed type res sprinklers.
The only place we would have to use semi-recessed is when throwing
across the 4/12 ceilings.
Thanks for the information.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: QR sprinklers in R2 occupancy

Correct. And if the total # of heads in a dwelling unit is 4, you can
QR.
Finally, someone treating a fraternity commiserate with the exposure?
Or would concealed heads be enough protection from mechanical injury so
you could use the residential heads you should use?
Threat of someone hanging themselves?
Don't forget you'll need .1 for the QRs vrs .05.

glc 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne
Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: QR sprinklers in R2 occupancy

I have a R2 occupancy that is to be sprinklered per NFPA13R (07ed).  The
architect wants to use quick response institutional sprinklers.
It appears that per 6.7.7.1.3 I can use QR sprinklers inside the
dwelling unit only if it meets the definition of a compartment with no
more than 4 sprinklers.  If the dwelling unit contains multiple rooms
(ie:
bathroom, kitchen, ect.) then this unit would not qualify because it is
not single compartment correct?  What if with all the compartments
together there would only be 4 sprinklers?
 
Thanks,
Dewayne Martinez
Design Build Fire Protection
New Berlin, WI
<http://www.designbuildfire.com/>
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