When comparing 8.15.1.2.10  for 13, 2007 and 13, 2010

2007 states, "....demonstrated not to propogate fire when tested ....."

2010 states, "....demonstrated not to propogate fire more than 10.5 ft (3.2
m) when tested ....."

It appears the older 2007 is more stringent as it seems to not permit any
spread, whereas the newer 2010 permits up to 10.5 feet. Is that the
interpretation? My problem is the 2010 has not been adopted by the building
code yet, and I'm not sure if I can use it if it is less stringent.

Tony 

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Sent: December 21, 2010 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Fire Retardant Coating

On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:59 AM, A.P.Silva wrote:

> Answer to Question 1: I would also say it is the assembly. Else, 
> gypsum sheets (drywall) wrapped around wood members will not be 
> acceptable.


So your position is that drywall is not rigid? Excluding that new imported
flexible stuff where the gypsum was  replaced with plastic ground into
powder - lol.

>
> Answer to Question 2: 13, 2007 handbook has the follwing commentary:
> "......it is important
> To verify that the testing used to determine the material's 
> combustibility was conducted with the material arranged in the 
> position in which it is to be installed. Changes in the orientation or 
> arrangement of the material  can significantly change the flamespread 
> characteristics and the combustibility of the material." The 
> commentary seems to imply that it is the orientation.


You are absolutely correct though the Handbook text does not correlate with
what the standard actually says.  The Handbooks are excellent documents but
not always accurate.  I've flagged a few (very few) items for correction.
Remember when the Sprinkler Handbook said the hanger shall be perpendicular
to the floor and the sprinkler shall be WITHIN 6 ft of the eave fro attics
or the Pump Handbook when it said you were REQUIRED to have a jockey pump.

As you already pointed out, this interpretation does not correlate with the
test standard so the logical conclusion is that this makes a possible fourth
correction for the Sprinkler Handbook (which isn't bad for such a big
document).

Guess I need to dot my i's and say as a member of NFPA 13 and one of the
participants on updating the Sprinkler Handbook, this is just my opinion and
is not to be considered a formal interpretation by NFPA or any of its
technical committees.

Roland

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