See Cliff? Never underestimate the ability of the Beatles to transcend 
generations. My kid turned 27 a week ago, but has been to the Cavern, 
Strawberry Fields on both sides of the pond, while keeping up with bands more 
akin to a 27 year old living with a guitarist in NYC.

Brad would likely wrap it up with: Here comes the SUM  ((rim shot! Try the 
veal, here all week)

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system

Koo koo ka choo?

-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Whitfield [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system

George,

You are showing your age on this one!  I doubt many of these guys will have a 
clue what your reply means!

Cliff


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system

I  B u r i e d   P a u l ?

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Decommissioning a system

Yeah, just read it backwards.

Benjamin Young



On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> NFPA -3?
>
>
>
> At 11:32 AM 3/7/2011, you wrote:
>
>> We would use IBC 3303, as our basic guide to de-commission
>> (Demolition) of any system which requires the AHJ to provide (3303.6) 
>> "---In accordance with the approved rules and requirements of the 
>> authority having jurisdiction."
>>
>> I would caution you that leaving sprinkler heads in place that no 
>> longer operate, in an "Occupied" building gives the false sense of 
>> protection, similar to just gluing heads to a ceiling without and 
>> pipe
supplying them.
>> I
>> don't know how "Litigious" the Irish court system is in regard to 
>> "Public safety" but Old English law can't be much different than 
>> here, except that you have far fewer lawyers.
>>
>> I'd remove anything that say's or looks like a fire protection 
>> system, including heads, riser, FDC, signs and pipe if possible, but 
>> the AHJ should supply you with written guidelines for your files.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien 
>> Shannon
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:39 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Decommissioning a system
>>
>> Dear Forum,
>>
>> I was wondering if there is a Standard or Datasheet that people are 
>> aware of for decommissioning a system.
>> We are requested to decommission a few buildings here. Some are 
>> remaining open, some are closing. Some will be heated but some are not.
>> One of my big concerns is that in some cases there are 
>> drywall/plaster ceilings, with drops to the heads. Therefore there 
>> will be water in the drops. Since the system would be left such that 
>> it would not be a sealed system, thereby allowing room for expansion 
>> during freeze periods, would there still be cause for concern of
breakage/leakage?
>> Some of the areas would be very difficult to remove every sprinkler 
>> (with severe floor obstructions.), and there may be areas with 
>> certain amount of misc trapped water.
>> Has anyone got experience in this regards, or is there a Standard to 
>> be followed.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> BTW, I recently closed QED Sprinkler Designs to take a position back 
>> in the 'Homeland' with my Father's Company. (Believe we just became 
>> the first Irish AFSA memberJ). I had mentioned this move to a few of 
>> you before but there have been a few postponed starts which has led 
>> me to be in limbo for a while there.
>> Thank you all for your help and encouragement while I was State side 
>> (it was a very special 16 years for me), and hope to keep in touch.
>>
>> Damien Shannon
>> Provincial Sprinkler Company Ltd.
>> Unit 4, Cork Airport Industrial Estate Kinsale Road, Cork, Ireland.
>> Tel: (021) 4965058
>> Fax: (021) 4317425
>>
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> Todd G. Williams, PE
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> Stonington, CT
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