I think we should teach both physics and magic and let the children
decide which way they want to believe.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Steve Leyton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not sure I see a problem.   He's the engineer of record and he decides 
> what the domestic demand is.  Nobody else.   And you are on a need to know 
> basis since you're not doing the plumbing.  Therefore, you will know what he 
> decides it to be, when he decides.   And he'll likely formulate an opinion of 
> just what does and does not flow downhill while he's at it.
>
> So when (not if) he boogers up your work beyond reasonable or immediate 
> repair, you will issue a request for additional services and hang him out to 
> dry.   I understand that you're a timid person George, and not predisposed to 
> conflict, but sometimes you just have to step up and push back.
>
> Yours in playing well with others,
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: best PE email of the day
>
> This is an email I actually received today. I replied to his boss and told em 
> it’s a dinky $12,000 job, life's too short. And another of these, I'll 
> forward to the client- since they love us.
> Funnier- the 55 gpm domestic came the day before from his boss!
> glc
>
>
> You need to get something straight, my friend:  the domestic demand is NOT 55 
> GPM.  I repeat: the domestic demand is not 55 GPM.  I don’t know where you 
> are getting that number, but it’s wrong.  Do you understand?  I am the P.E.  
> I am the Engineer of Record on this project.  I decide what the domestic 
> water demand is, nobody else.  You will know what the domestic demand is when 
> I tell you, and not before.
>
> Another thing: yes, I understand that PSI varies with K-factor and coverage 
> area.  What I’m asking you is the following:
>
>  what GPM do you require?
>
>  what PSI do you require at the Base of Riser?
>
> Call me.
>
> (name excluded), PE
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