A lay-in ceiling would be the 'or finish' part of the definition.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Casterline [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: concealed space definition

You bet-- there was a quite a bit here recently about it-- wasn't an Arch
trying to symantic his a$$?
  
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: concealed space definition

No, that's not always the case as there are several references within NFPA
13 dealing with a concealed space that has limited access.   So the space
may have access and still be a concealed space.  

Typically a concealed space is one that does not permit occupancy or
storage, has limited or no access, and whose area is not readily viewable
from the occupied space. 

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad
Casterline
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: concealed space definition

Concealed:
Rendered inaccessible by the structure or finish of the building.

NFPA 73-2006 3.3.6

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Williams [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: concealed space definition

Is there anywhere in 13 where a concealed space is defined? I have some
idiot architect that is insisting on a formal deinition

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com

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