Matt, If there are any other NFPA codes with definitions, I use those first. A good example for ceilings is NFPA 72-- It tells how to figure the slope of curved ceilings.
-----Original Message----- From: Matthew J. Willis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: concealed space definition He asked for a Formal Definition. NFPA 13 does not have one. Chapter 3 tells us to use Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition (3.1) So from Merriam Webster Online: conceal : to place out of sight <concealed himself behind the door> space: a : a limited extent in one, two, or three dimensions : distance, area, volume R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-816-1087 Mobile 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline > >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:16 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: concealed space definition > > > >You bet-- there was a quite a bit here recently about it-- wasn't an Arch > >trying to symantic his a$$? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:04 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: concealed space definition > > > >No, that's not always the case as there are several references within > >NFPA > >13 dealing with a concealed space that has limited access. So the space > >may have access and still be a concealed space. > > > >Typically a concealed space is one that does not permit occupancy or > >storage, has limited or no access, and whose area is not readily viewable > >from the occupied space. > > > >Craig L. Prahl, CET > >Fire Protection > >CH2MHILL > >Lockwood Greene > >1500 International Drive > >Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > >Direct - 864.599.4102 > >Fax - 864.599.8439 > >CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > >[email protected] > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] > >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad > >Casterline > >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:05 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: concealed space definition > > > >Concealed: > >Rendered inaccessible by the structure or finish of the building. > > > >NFPA 73-2006 3.3.6 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Williams [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:48 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: concealed space definition > > > >Is there anywhere in 13 where a concealed space is defined? I have some > >idiot architect that is insisting on a formal deinition > > > >Todd G. Williams, PE > >Fire Protection Design/Consulting > >Stonington, CT > >860.535.2080 > >www.fpdc.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3528 - Release Date: 03/29/11 > >01:34:00 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
