Are you asking: 
what is proper protection under the IBC as a minimum?
What is required under #13?
What is the scope of work that you are to include in your bid?

>From the sound of your question, you're the BCO and wondering whether to 
>accept this protection strategy; however, I'll bet you should focus on what 
>they've asked for you to provide.
DON'T take on the role of the EOR, the Architect has defined the work as he 
sees it in his professional opinion. You're not entitled to one.


George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: building code tradeoff

We have a project where the architect has stated the following:


1.      We have installed draftstops in the attic space to subdivide the space 
into areas less than 3000 sf.


2.      We are installing the fire protection system in the basement according 
to 903.2.11.1.


3.      We are installing fire protection on the first and second floors to 
allow a reduction in fire rating of the corridor walls, stairs, and the wall 
separating the courtroom A3 from the B occupancy.


4.      We are installing the draftstops in the attic space and not accepting 
the reduction but utilitzing the exception to 901.2.



5.      The architect has stated that only the basement is required to be 
sprinklered.

This is a new courthouse. This is an architect that we have done work with and 
he is sharp but I don't see read the IBC the same way. First we were 
questioning not sprinklering the combustible attic. We don't have the water 
available to do a dry system in that attic without a fire pump. I don't think 
the reductions can be taken on first and second floor unless the entire 
building is sprinklered per NFPA 13. Can he subdivide with draftstops and then 
take the rating reductions on the first and second floor? I don't think so but 
even if I am wrong and this can be done, wouldn't we still have to increase our 
area on the second floor to 3,000ft? If so we would need the pump anyway. 
Thanks for your input.

Rod DiBona
Rapid Fire






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