You DO understand the cost of the path ahead of you, especially when you're 
trying to get fire tests done?
There is a large item you may have missed:
Economic feasibility
Since I'd guess there is but a small number of these sprinklers that would be 
sold in a year.

Various manufacturers have their own little "Edsels" that they invested R&D $ 
into, but aren't getting the return for them.
Even when times are good, they are prudent about what they invest in, and I'm 
not certain that saving a couple PSI is one of them.

If they have enough water to make the plumbing work, they've got 7 PSI up to a 
certain flow. But for the cost required to get the listing done and the 
sprinkler on the market, you'd prolly need a quantum change in the min EHP, not 
2 PSI. It would look better as a % saved (save 28% of your EHP!) but when it 
comes right down to it, its 20% of what we generally leave as a throwaway 
cushion.

I have had a lot of ideas I scrapped quickly because of the risk/reward 
economic viability measure. At one time, folks were putting up bar joists with 
the chords made of pipe so we could connect and use them as our sprinkler 
system, I believe in the 80's. Obviously, that idea's time hasn't come (yet). 
We see very few commercial multipurpose systems, despite what appears at first 
to be great cost savings.

I keep a pad of paper and a pencil in the drawer of my nightstand. I don't 
remember the last time I awoke with an idea great enough to write down, but 
maybe I just sleep better than I used to. Or I've grown to appreciate rolling 
over and going back to sleep.


George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 7psi Minimums for Fire Sprinklers

If in doubt about the Pt available to a non-flowing head when others are 
flowing, couldn't we use a flow test graph to find GPM at 7 PSI, and make sure 
we are flowing less than that?

Ron,
the above is another excerpt from the original post.

in most cases we have what, 30, 50, 100 PSI available to eject all the link 
parts clear of the frame and deflector?

What I will be proposing will further simply sprinklers, whether you can see it 
or not. And no one can talk me out of trying to improve NFPA #13. I might not 
get it done, but I'm sure the younger generation will not be satisfied with the 
HISTORY ONLY of our generation. 

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