It's a deficiency for sure, but not per 25. I keep going back in my mind to
the tech that pointed out a coverage deficiency in coverage that he saw in
one part of the building, and called out as such within the test reports
themselves, rather than as comments, but missed a similar deficiency
elsewhere. After the building burnt due to the deficiency that he missed
the lawyer convinced the jury that the tech was practicing engineering
without a license, that the owner had a perfect right to expect that a
complete engineering review had been done as the tech acted like an
engineer and made at least one engineering call. End result was a $12M
judgement over a couple hundred dollar inspection. I think George told us
all about this originally. And this is merely the worst case. Heat
collectors, old or new are, are a design/layout issue and so allowed or
denied by the AHJ. The owner needs to be informed of the questionability of
the efficacy, and perhaps the AHJ directly, dependent on the rules
regarding reporting within the jurisdiction, but hey are not something that
a tech can decide need to be/should be there or not.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
> Good points...Did you say it had the 'UL' symbol or the 'FM' symbol??? Oh,
> then they shouldn't be attached to the sprinkler, the sprinkler system, the
> piping (or anything else) - per NFPA-13 (starting in 1896??)...It's a
> "deficiency" in my non-PE opinion.
>
> Regards to all.
>
> Jerry
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>
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