no argument from me on that Ron :), designers do create!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Remote Area Question

On anything but a straight forward gridded system I always tell designers
they don't find the remote area they create it.

Ron Fletcher
Aero - Phoenix

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad
Casterline
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Remote Area Question

Roland, as I have said before, I like being right, but I love being
corrected when I am not :). I think you are right and I am wrong regarding
the interpretation of the referenced section.
I think there are problems with the referenced section though (i.e.
"configuration" instead of "system" perhaps, needs expanded on maybe). I
know a Standard can only do so much, and predicting which heads will
activate in a given fire scenario is beyond 13, it can only tell us which
ones to 'play like' activated, even if that is a long narrow strip. Since
head activation is proportional to the radial distance from the center of
the plume, I see "remote" areas as round, like they were in the beginning of
calcs (so I am told). Square is a close simplification, then as we
distinguish big pipe from little pipe we stretch it to include more little
pipe, as you alluded to. I am terrified of not calculating the most
demanding scenario so I do not rely ONLY on the referenced section-- I have
seen the surprising results produced by 'imbalances', elevation differences,
etc, to not do some additional analysis sometimes.
I am not trying to "tell" you anything, as I believe your reply was only
relative to the interpretation of the referenced section. Thanks, Brad      

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Remote Area Question

well... i'm not a lost cause yet. i'll give it some more thought. thanks.

Quoting Roland Huggins <[email protected]>:

> I was hoping I'd be able to convert you :)
>
> The question of the most demanding would be WHICH cross main you drop 
> the rectangle on.
>
> Roland



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