I believe that the crawl space does meet the intent as long as it meets the 
requirements on that section. I am going by memory but I believe that there 
can't be any storage or fuel fired equipment and maybe a couple of others. One 
key to this is that I believe that the space above then has to use a 3,000 ft 
calc area. I think the 2013 is going to minimum of 8 heads (AFSA convention) in 
lieu of the 3,000 but for now it is 3,000.

Rod at Rapid

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:08 AM
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Subject: FW: Sprinklers in crawl spaces

Anyone have any insight on this?




We have an old commercial building that was previously not sprinkled that is 
going through a change in occupancy classification and is now retrofitting 
sprinklers.  This building has a very large crawl space with masonry walls and 
a dirt floor.  The floor assembly is combustible solid wood joist with a wood 
sub-floor. In looking in NFPA 13 (2010 Edition), there are two possible options 
in defining this space and determining if sprinklers are required.   The first 
section is 8.15.1 for concealed spaces - in reviewing all the possible 
scenarios in this section I don't see where sprinklers can be omitted.  The 
second section is 8.15.6 for Spaces under ground floors, exterior docks, and 
platforms.  The question I have for the group is does "spaces under ground 
floors" meet the intent of a crawl space?  If not how would you define a space 
under a ground floor, and how are this different from a crawl space. If  
section 8.15.6 is appropriate then it does allow for the omission of sp
 rinklers.

I'd really like to know how other have addressed this situation.  

Kris Cooper
Colorado Springs Fire Department
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