Are you thinking sway bracing of mains and large BL's 9.3.5 vs. restraint of 
BL's 9.3.6?  Only applies when seismic is required 9.3. 

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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org 
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Seismic and ASCE 7

Doesn't 13 require sway bracing on all systems and seismic bracing, per the 
prescriptive methods of 13 that meet the performance criteria of ASCE 7 or by 
engineering calculations per that same criteria, when in a seismic zone that 
requires seismic bracing. Now that was a mouthful but sway bracing and seismic 
bracing are very distinct things in my mind. But then I may be misinterpreting.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Chris Born <fireph...@cox.net> wrote:

> My opinion is that sprinkler systems are not required to be braced 
> under ASCE 7 in seismic design category B.  ASCE 7 specifically 
> exempts mechanical and electrical equipment in seismic design category 
> B.  I believe it appropriate to consider a sprinkler system under the 
> same umbrella as mechanical and electrical systems.
>
> Mechanical and electrical systems are also exempt from seismic 
> protection in seismic design category C, unless the importance factor 
> is greater than 1.  Because sprinkler systems have an importance 
> factor of 1.5, they do require seismic protection in design category C.
>
>
> Christopher Born, P.E.
> Director, Fire Protection Engineering
> Clark Nexsen
> Norfolk, VA
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:03 PM, "Bob" <b...@firebyknight.com> wrote:
>
> > There is a project that I am not involved in, but the AHJ called for 
> > an opinion.  The situation revolves around the idea that if a 
> > building is in site class C and design category B, the sway bracing 
> > requirements of
> NFPA 13
> > are waved by ASCE 7.  I have not come across this before, and there 
> > is a certain fire sprinkler contractor that is eliminating the sway 
> > bracing, retaining straps, etc... on several large warehouse / 
> > distribution buildings.  The claim is that ASCE 7 allows for this.  
> > Has anyone come across this and have information verifying or 
> > negating it?  I am meeting with several AHJ's in regard to this 
> > tomorrow morning, so any input will
> be
> > extremely useful.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Bob Knight, CET III
> > 208-318-3057
> > www.firebyknight.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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