The NJ Uniform Fire Code at NJAC 5:70-2.16(5) stipulates a time frame of 24 hours for "inadequate fire protection system" as an imminent hazard. However the fire official has the authority to take immediate measures such as evacuation. in two recent situations fire department pumpers were placed at the FDC with crews for extended periods while fire pumps were being replaced/rebuilt. A good example of an FDC being used for more than supplementary purposes. The decision making is simple...would the building be allowed a CO without the system or component in question ? If the fire pump was needed for initial occupancy then its absence after the building is occupied is an imminent hazard and requires action. The IFC also contains similar provisions less the time frames that New Jersey has stipulated. Hope that helps. John Drucker - Mobile Email
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat May 11 17:49:38 2013 Subject: Re: Response times to system deficiencies I've had to follow 25 when replacing at diesel pump. Royal PIA even for a Spkr geek. Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "Roland Huggins" <[email protected]> wrote: > Obviously there's nothing in 13 since that's an installation standard. The > main point is that there is no definitive timeline in NFPA 25. You may want > t look at the ROP and ROC since this issue was proposed and rejected by the > TC. There is a NITMAM on it but the likelihood of it being added to 25 is > about 1%. The reason nothing is added is that 25 already addresses it and if > the current process is ignored what good will saying fix within 48 hrs or 2 > weeks etc? > > If it is a serious deficiency, then it's an impairment. If it's an > impairment, then chap 15 is suppose to be activated. Notifying the fire dept > and insurance carrier, evacuating the building or assigning a fire watch etc > etc should minimize the duration before repairs (IF THE PROCESS IS FOLLOWED). > > Roland > > > On May 6, 2013, at 12:39 PM, "Morey, Mike" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I swear this was written down somewhere but I can't seem to find it at the >> moment. I'm looking for NFPA 13/25/72 and/or IFC guidelines that address >> how long one has to address a deficiency based on it's severity. We work >> with a single client, but their operations are split up into dozens of >> "areas" that are in effect other clients. We have some resistance when it >> comes to scheduling and we're trying to build clearer and backed by code (or >> at least an authoritative source) guidelines for how long maintenance work >> can wait. Some of the maintenance in question is piddly little stuff, but >> some of it is pretty serious and we'd like to better qualify how we respond. >> I'm not real concerned about edition of the code, I have access to the last >> 15 years or so but recent editions are preferable. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Mike Morey, SET, CFPS >> Sprinkler Designer >> BMW Constructors, Inc. >> O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111 >> www.bmwc.com <http://www.bmwc.com/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone, return this message to the address above and delete all copies. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
