I meant to say, "... EVEN if said equipment is gas fired" in the last
sentence.

Steve  




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Steve Leyton
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R closet question

I agree with the gist of what you're saying as far as a good practice,
and personally do not agree with the blanket exception for "exterior"
closets.  However, this issue has been discussed at many levels (AFSA
may have published an informal on this topic) and it's my belief that
the intent of the standard is to allow the exception even if there are
washer/dryer sets or other equipment in the space.  Arguably, storing
BBQ supplies and potentially reactive chemicals and cleaners is more
hazardous than most equipment, especially if said equipment is gas
fired.

The foregoing is my opinion only and does not necessarily represent the
opinion or intent of the NFPA 13D/13R Technical Committee on Residential
Sprinkler Systems.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


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[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R closet question

I could be off base here, but I think the issue is with the existence of
an ignition source (which is what most AHJ's will allude to when making
their determination).  I haven't gleaned through commentary; however, it
is common practice for us to pop a dry sidewall into "exterior" closets
containing mechanical or heating equipment.

Curtis Tower
Central Fire Protection

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R closet question

Loaded question Dan.   The intent of the exception has to do with
unconditioned spaces that might be subject to freezing.   The TC did not
want to force an anti-freeze loop (touchy subject) or dry pipe system
into an otherwise wet residential application, based just on the
potential for freezing in selected compartments that are separated from
the dwelling unit and legitimately outside of the envelope. But the way
you word your question is open-ended.  Just because a compartment isn't
accessed from within a particular dwelling unit, doesn't mean it's
excepted if it's accessed from some other compartment that may not be
considered as "exterior" or on a balcony, breezeway, corridor, etc.   

So assuming it's a truly exterior compartment and separated without
openings to the dwelling unit as Pete alluded to, then yes.   But if
there's some other condition that isn't truly exterior, just because
it's not accessed from a dwelling unit doesn't arbitrarily exempt the
space from sprinkler protection.

The foregoing is my opinion only and does not necessarily represent the
opinion or intent of the NFPA Technical Committee on Residential
Sprinkler Systems.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


-----Original Message-----
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Adams
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: NFPA 13R closet question

In NFPA 13R (2013) , paragraph 6.6.4 notes:

6.6.4* Sprinklers shall be installed in any closet used for heating or
air-conditioning equipment, washers, dryers, or water

heaters except as permitted by 6.6.7.

 

Paragraph 6.6.7 notes:

6.6.7 Sprinklers shall not be required in closets (regardless of size)
on exterior balconies and exterior breezeways/corridors,

regardless of size, as long as the closet does not have doors or
unprotected penetrations directly into the dwelling unit.

 

So, is it correct that an exterior closet which contains a furnace or
water heater doesn't require protection if the door to access the closet
is not located inside the unit ?  

 

 

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