I would think that the vast majority of problems in mis-handling sprinklers in 
this manner come from premature actuation (especially with glass bulb) and not 
failure to actuate in a fire. I would also think that only in very rare 
circumstances would you lose a building due to an accidental discharge of a 
sprinkler. 

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com

On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:48 AM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "then it appears you can re-use sprinklers left in drops or sprigs"  Where 
> does this appearance come from?  I don't see it in the Code, Annex or 
> Handbook.  Quite frankly, that is the only place that counts in descending 
> order of priority.
> 
> I agree with Todd there is some judgment and risk tolerance.  I'm sure not 
> 'buying' a building loss over what a <$10 device I my current role.  When I 
> was a contractor maybe we weren't perfect in this regard.  When I was an AHJ 
> if asked - new, and lot of don't ask don't tell.
> 
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer 
> Burns & McDonnell
> 8201 Norman Center Drive
> Bloomington, MN 55437
> Phone:  952.656.3652
> Fax:  952.229.2923
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark A. 
> Sornsin, P.E.
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: removing sprinkler on drop
> 
> I would argue that this shouldn't be an argument as long as it is specified 
> up-front.  If the owner or engineer says do not reinstall, then don't argue, 
> because if you win, it is your butt on the line should the head fail.
> 
> If this is a competitive bid situation or direct work with owner, with no c
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