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From: Mike Hill <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2013 16:53:22 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: removing sprinkler on drop
NEW sprinklers are susceptible to damage in the back of the delivery truck
on a hot summer afternoon.
My gut tells me lawyers and insurance companies have annual meetings at the
same time and in the same hotel.
Mike Hill
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg
McGahan
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: removing sprinkler on drop
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ave we sufficient evidence that it is the reinstalled heads are the ones
accidently discharging?
It just seems like a waste to throw a 20 dollar head away because you have
to remove and reinstall.....or even a 3 dollar head.
We WILL comply with code, but I strongly disagree.
Greg
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Todd - Work <[email protected]> wrote:
I would think that the vast majority of problems in mis-handling
sprinklers in this manner come from premature actuation (especially
with glass bulb) and not failure to actuate in a fire. I would also
think that only in very rare circumstances would you lose a building
due to an accidental discharge of a sprinkler.
Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com
On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:48 AM, "Cahill, Christopher"
<[email protected]>
wrote:
> "then it appears you can re-use sprinklers left in drops or sprigs"
Where does this appearance come from? I don't see it in the Code,
Annex or Handbook. Quite frankly, that is the only place that counts
in descending order of priority.
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> I agree with Todd there is some judgment and risk tolerance. I'm
> sure
not 'buying' a building loss over what a <$10 device I my current role.
When I was a contractor maybe we weren't perfect in this regard.
When I was an AHJ if asked - new, and lot of don't ask don't tell.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark A.
Sornsin, P.E.
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: removing sprinkler on drop
>
> I would argue that this shouldn't be an argument as long as it is
specified up-front. If the owner or engineer says do not reinstall,
then don't argue, because if you win, it is your butt on the line
should the head fail.
>
> If this is a competitive bid situation or direct work with owner,
> with
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