Thanks Charles, good point. I guess if I did my job as a tech correctly fitters would not need anything other than the shop drawings. Still, if it was split, I envision the one called 'installation' as the one with the tables and nothing open to interpretation, not full of exceptions and references to other sections or codes, etc . The one called 'design' would not have the tables but the straight up simple formulas that produce the tables. I hope this makes sense as an example of what I am thinking. It seems that 13 is becoming almost hopelessly complicated for everyone and anything that could be done to sort it out would be a good thing. Thanks again Charles. wbr, Brad.
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Charles Thurston <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Brad, > > I dis-agree with splitting them. If you do not know how to install it, You > sure da heck can't tell someone else how to install it. In 35 years on and > around construction, I have seen many many buildings designed (with details) > that can not be built the way they were designed. Is that what our industry > wants for Fire Sprinklers? > > Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:40:52 PM, you wrote: > >> I remember when fitters knew 13 as well or better than designers. >> The schedules and tables were essential then, because handheld >> calculators were not prevalent- 13 was a Field Guide for >> installation. This is not the case anymore. What should we do? Split DESIGN >> from INSTALLATION? >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > -- > Best regards, > Charles Thurston mailto:[email protected] > Systems Design Manager > NICET Certified > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
