I think Chris hit it on the nose. 

Add to the mix the radical change that FM now applies by only using a defined 
number of sprinklers and a starting pressure for all sprinkler types.  This 
concept was proposed to the 13 TC and was soundly rejected.  I just don’t see 
13 doing away with the area/density curves.  Keeping in mind that truth can be 
stranger than fiction and you never really know where a group of 30 voters is 
going to end up, for the foreseeable future, I believe the odds are about the 
same as a snowballs chance in hell.

Roland

Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org





On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]> wrote:

> They compete?  And I don't see them coming together.  NFPA and FM have 
> different interests and priorities.  Not vastly different.  Can you see QR 
> reduction going away or FM adding it?  I don't see it anytime soon as one 
> example.  
> 
> I hope 30 does not come in.  Book is already too big IMHO.  I think there 
> should be one book that covers LH, OH, EH, calcs and plans and basics like 
> size and spacing.  Another book with NOTHING repeated that covers the 
> specialties like tires, HPS, rolled paper.....Then I might see 30 coming in 
> to that book.  Then a third book for ships, lol. 
> 
> Might even take out acceptance and testing and move to NFPA 3 or NFPA 25 or 
> something like that.
> 
> I was around in the 231C days, not suggesting going back to that  but 
> something between the two would be nice. 
> 
> I should say I'm not on a committee, so just my thoughts. 
> 
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Associate Fire Protection Engineer 

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