New construction, ALL the time. High roof school gymnasium with adjacent two story training and locker rooms and SJ between. Dining or multipurpose building with covered patio or lunch shelter that abuts but isn't attached. Type 5 residential wraps around type 1 parking structures that are separated at every level. Angled wings of retail and commercial buildings. Strip malls with small multi-tenant shells sandwiching large anchor tenant buildings. It's an everyday fact of life throughout the built environment, out this way.
Steve <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Todd Williams <[email protected]> </div><div>Date:10/23/2014 2:12 AM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: [email protected] </div><div>Subject: Re: Expansion Joint vs. Seismic Expansion Joint </div><div> </div>Steve, on the left coast do you run into the seismic separation often on new construction or mostly on additions? Out here we get architects trying to sell expansion joint as seismic and want the loop thingy. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com > On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:42 AM, ampeck <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's good info Steve. I'll have to check the actual joint myself today and > see if it's simply an expansion joint as indicated on the plans or something > bigger. > > Thanks all, this is why I love this forum and you people! > > Sent from iCloud > > >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 09:28 PM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Night and day. A seismic separation is two completely independent >> structural assemblies built to within 4-8" of each other. The gap >> between them is masked at the walls/floors/ceilings but it's like two >> completely separate buildings. An expansion joint is just a place in a >> sub-assembly, such as a concrete slab or exterior stucco soffit, were a >> gap is left to allow expansion and contraction without cracking. >> >> SL >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sprinklerforum >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Todd Williams >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:21 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Expansion Joint vs. Seismic Expansion Joint >> >> Structurally, what is the difference between an expansion joint and a >> seismic separation? >> >> Todd G Williams, PE >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting >> Stonington, CT >> 860-535-2080 >> www.fpdc.com >> >> >> > On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Jamie Seidl <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > Thanks Roland, I will keep that in mind for future projects. >> > Jamie Seidl >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler >> .org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler >> .org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
