Also, Lest we forget, the materials used in the construction of these "Boxes" help a fire along regardless of the contents.
R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Project Manager Rapid Fire Protection Inc. 1805 Samco Road Rapid City, SD 57702 Office-605.348.2342 Cell-605.391.2733 Fax:-605.348.0108 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Cahill, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:07 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: exterior cooler/freezer Its called a backdraft. Look it up or watch the movie. Yes it can burn. Also be careful with statistics. One can show any given fire is highly unlikely. Yet they still happen on a regular basis. Chris Cahill Fire Protection Engineer Burns & McDonnell ccah...@burnsmcd.com 952-656-3652 Todd - Work wrote: I went to the jobsite yesterday to get the full scoop. This is a restaurant in a strip mall. In back, there will be two boxes approximately 9 x 16 x 8(h). One will be liquor storage, which needs to have an inside access. This will be conditioned space and we will run 2 heads off the existing. The second is a combination freezer/cooler with the front 10 ft cooler and the back 6 ft freezer. That adds complications. You would now be looking at a 2 head dry system. The owner is considering eliminating the inside access for that box. They have contacted the AHJ to see if that would eliminate then need for sprinklers. My next question is on fire history in this type of box. By design, it will be pretty much air tight to preserve the temperature. Given the size of the space, would there be enough oxygen inside to sustain a fire that would expose the main building? Is there any history of this type of fire? Sent from my iPad > On Mar 10, 2015, at 6:35 AM, John Drucker <jdruc...@redbanknj.org> wrote: > > Bill, like the recent blue dress experiment our eyes see what we want them > to. Fires, what fire ? > > John Drucker - Mobile Email > jdruc...@redbanknj.org<mailto:jdruc...@redbanknj.org> > Cell/Text 732-904-6823 > > > Bill Brooks <bill.bro...@brooksfpe.com> wrote: > > Sometimes there are interpretations and sometimes misapplications. An > intelligent interpretation is a help to a designer, a misapplication > can be a dangerous thing. I'm not sure which one is being referenced here. > > Bill Brooks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Charles Thurston > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 5:50 PM > To: Cahill, Christopher; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: exterior cooler/freezer > > Hello Christopher, > > That is what the AHJs around here look at it as. They say the closed > cooler door is like a fire door and no sprinkler needed. They even > told a building owner of he left the "decorative roof" off a 1500 sq' > cooler outside the building it did not have to be sprinklered. > > Monday, March 9, 2015, 11:16:43 AM, you wrote: > >> Hold on a second, there could be a fire wall between the two creating >> separate buildings, lol. > >> Chris Cahill, PE* >> Associate Fire Protection Engineer >> Burns & McDonnell >> Phone: 952.656.3652 >> Fax: 952.229.2923 >> ccah...@burnsmcd.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
