Contrary to popular belief newer or later edition does not necessarily mean more stringent, in some cases just the opposite. I know this is wet forum, but take the smoke detector at fire 9 panel issue, in and out of the standard to the point the requirement was simply put in the building code trumping whatever the standard says. In New Jersey we are in process of adopting 2015 I Codes and those reference standards. The I codes are being adopted with state amendments.
John Drucker - Mobile Email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cell/Text 732-904-6823 David Autry <[email protected]> wrote: Here in Nebraska we are under 2002 NFPA 13, unless it's a CMS funded facility, then it's the 1999 edition. David Autry Meininger Fire Protection 2521 West L Street, Suite 5 Lincoln, NE 68522 402.466.2616 402.466.2617 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Silva Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ignoring new standard requirements It is not the AHJ not adopting the NFPA standards, but the Building Code not adopting the latest standard. There are some building codes that adopt the "current standard" whereas others adopt a standard of a specific year of issue. You just have to live with it. In any case, not all changes are more stringent. For example, NFPA 13R used to require a 15 minute thermal barrier in washrooms to be not sprinklered. But the current standards deleted this requirement making it less stringent. There are so many other such less stringent changes. Then, old-timers will remember how the three OH groups were re-grouped into two, reducing some densities, and increasing some. Whe ther they do it or not, the Building Code Committee is responsible for reviewing the standards they adopt, prior to issuing a building code. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:11:21 PM Subject: ignoring new standard requirements I'm sorry for my grammar and autocorrect as this is coming from my phone. How does the forum feel about ignoring the more stringent requirements of the most current NFPA standards all because the AHJ hasn't adopted the latest year? As the standards have evolved with each new addition, they typically try to clarify murky wording of past standards, expand on topics, or add/change requirements based on the latest and greatest tests. So should we be purposely designing and installing and inferior product that more times than not is less safe just because the AHJ hasn't adopted the latest design guidelines. I've heard sometimes the AHJ doesn't adopt the new standard simply due to the financial impact of republishing their amendments and not merely because they don't agree. To me it seems morally/ethically wrong but I may just be on my high horse today. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.o rg _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.o rg _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
