Contrary to popular belief newer or later edition does not necessarily mean 
more stringent, in some cases just the opposite. I know this is wet forum, but 
take the smoke detector at fire 9 panel issue, in and out of the standard to 
the point the requirement was simply put in the building code trumping whatever 
the standard says. In New Jersey we are in process of adopting 2015 I Codes and 
those reference standards. The I codes are being adopted with state amendments.

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David Autry <[email protected]> wrote:

Here in Nebraska we are under 2002 NFPA 13, unless it's a CMS funded
facility, then it's the 1999 edition.

David Autry

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Silva
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:20 PM
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Subject: Re: ignoring new standard requirements

It is not the AHJ not adopting the NFPA standards, but the Building Code
not adopting the latest standard. There are some building codes that adopt
the "current standard" whereas others adopt a standard of a specific year
of issue. You just have to live with it. In any case, not all changes are
more stringent. For example, NFPA 13R used to require a 15 minute thermal
barrier in washrooms to be not sprinklered. But the current standards
deleted this requirement making it less stringent. There are so many other
such less stringent changes. Then, old-timers will remember how the three
OH groups were re-grouped into two, reducing some densities, and
increasing some. Whe ther they do it or not, the Building Code Committee
is responsible for reviewing the standards they adopt, prior to issuing a
building code.

Tony

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Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:11:21 PM
Subject: ignoring new standard requirements

I'm sorry for my grammar and autocorrect as this is coming from my phone.

How does the forum feel about ignoring the more stringent requirements of
the most current NFPA standards all because the AHJ hasn't adopted the
latest year? As the standards have evolved with each new addition, they
typically try to clarify murky wording of past standards, expand on
topics, or add/change requirements based on the latest and greatest tests.
So should we be purposely designing and installing and inferior product
that more times than not is less safe just because the AHJ hasn't adopted
the latest design guidelines. I've heard sometimes the AHJ doesn't adopt
the new standard simply due to the financial impact of republishing their
amendments and not merely because they don't agree. To me it seems
morally/ethically wrong but I may just be on my high horse today.

Thoughts?



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