Thanks Steve. That clears a lot up for me. I have gmail too and you're right about the spam filter. I don't get the volume of mail you do and so I check it often and there are a couple of folks that I think shouldn't be there, like Jerry, on occasion. I've often wondered about what's in his emails that send him to the cornfield.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Steve Muncy <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m glad Ron raised this issue - and I consider it on-topic for the > SprinklerForum. We process email for all services, but we get far more > bounced mail and delivery failures from AOL than any other source. I won’t > get technical other than to say that the way AOL structures their message > content appears to many other services as spam - and AOL treats many > legitimate messages from the SprinklerForum as spam. When someone complains > that they aren’t receiving SprinklerForum messages, the first thing I check > is to see if they have an AOL address. If they do, there is nothing I can > do about it. > > For my personal email I have my own domain name and the mail is filtered > through Google Mail (gmail) because they have an absolutely awesome > spam/virus filter. In only two days they have isolated over 1,000 spam > messages - and I’ve only received about 20 legitimate messages in that > time. I used to faithfully review email in my spam folder to make sure it > was real spam - but I finally gave up on that since it almost never gives > me a false positive. Unfortunately it does sometimes put AOL messages in > the spam folder, but I no longer receive much AOL mail so I can live with > that. > > This is not to condemn AOL. They probably provide a good service in many > ways - but their email is problematic in many ways and has caused a lot of > confusion on the Forum. > > Just as a warning….. if in the future you do have issues with the Forum > and you have AOL email, it is not likely we can do anything about it other > than recommend you switch to another free email provider and resubscribe to > the forum. > > > Steve A. Muncy, CAE > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. > Dallas, TX > http://www.firesprinkler.org > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:20 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jerry, > > > > You always end up in my spam folder with the following message: > > > > *Why is this message in Spam?* It has a from address in aol.com but has > > failed aol.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more > > <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1366858?hl=en&expand=5> > > > > Just a heads up. > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:28 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Ladies/Gentlemen: > >> > >> I watched NBC News that night and they stated it may have started with > a > >> lightning strike on the roof...My conjecture: Possibly igniting > insulating > >> foam below roof deck...and, above the sprinklers?? Your thoughts, por > >> favor? > >> > >> Jerry > >> [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > >> > >> Jerry D. Watts, SFPE > >> President & Co-Founder > >> ACCENT FIRE ENGINEERING INT'L. Ltd.* > >> Santa Fe, New Mexico USA > >> (800) 503.1961 nationwide > >> > >> *Licensed Fire Protection Engineers - Architects/Inspectors/Fire > >> Investigators: AZ CA CO NM NV NY TX UT KS MD MS > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 4/6/2015 8:22:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > >> [email protected] writes: > >> > >> A terrible fire but blessing no one was hurt. > >> > >> They had another fire a few weeks before contained by sprinklers in a > >> different section of the business park: > >> > >> > http://www.whas11.com/story/news/local/2015/03/19/crews-working-fire-at-ge-appliances/25054443/ > >> > >> Ironic the tenant, Derby Industries, makes mattress specifically for > fire > >> houses > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Sprinklerforum > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > >> Brad Casterline > >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:02 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: GE fire > >> > >> Derby Industries: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.derbyindustries.com/ecommerce/products.cfm?item=Corrections-Jail- > >> Mattresses-c84 > >> > >> From Maurice: > >> > >> "It appears from a 2012 report that the site (and particular building) > was > >> sprinkler protected, however there were recommendations to improve the > >> protection arrangement and the arrangement of the water supply". > >> > >> If I had to guess, I would say the stored commodity was other than > >> originally designed for!!! > >> > >> Brad > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Sprinklerforum > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Jack Cahit Kilavuz > >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:29 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: GE fire > >> > >> FM brought the plastics in construction issue many years ago, > developed a > >> corner test, showed sprinklers designed for occupany may not be > adequate > >> for foam insuated buildings. > >> The building in the pictures appear very similar to meatworks, bakery > and > >> dairy buildings I visited the "day after", hence if the sprinklers are > >> only > >> based on NFPA basic manufacturing activity they may not be able to > contain > >> such a fire. > >> > >> Of course this is after all previous comments: that the sprinkler > should > >> be adequate for occupancy, should be properly fitted and professionally > >> maintained and provided with adequate/reliable water supply. > >> > >> Jack > >> +973 33468488 > >> > >> On 6 April 2015 at 15:36, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Obviously something wasn't up to par. One picture taken by an > >>> employee before exiting showed a pretty significant fire in its early > >>> stage but no sprinkler discharge. > >>> > >>> I've dealt with projects where there were sprinklers present but > >>> either the system was impaired or incorrectly designed for the > >>> occupancy such > >> that > >>> the fire resulted in a total loss of property. > >>> > >>> So just because there are sprinklers hanging from the steel doesn't > >>> mean the building is actually sprinklered. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Craig L. Prahl > >>> Fire Protection Group Lead > >>> CH2MHILL > >>> Lockwood Greene > >>> 1500 International Drive > >>> Spartanburg, SC 29303 > >>> Direct - 864.599.4102 > >>> Fax - 864.599.8439 > >>> CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice > >>> Marvi > >>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:23 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: re: GE fire > >>> > >>> I had a chance to look up this location. > >>> It appears from a 2012 report that the site (and particular building) > >>> was sprinkler protected, however there were recommendations to improve > >>> the protection arrangement and the arrangement of the water supply. > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------- > >>> From: "Karen Lesko" > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 4:12 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: GE fire > >>> > >>> I have read several reports about the GE Warehouse fire and none of > >>> them have mentioned if the warehouse was sprinklered. 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