Just for discussion, look at 8.12.5.1.1. Isn't that essentially a cross section 
of a baffle? While not specifically having a section dedicated to baffles for 
ESFR as other sprinklers types do, and allowing spacing's less than 8'-0, what 
would you do if you had a solid structural beam? Section 8.12.5.1.2 says that 
you can ignore the beam if you have a sprinkler on each side of the beam. I am 
willing to bet there is a chance those (2) sprinklers end up closer than 8'-0 
in a lot of cases. How is this any different than a baffle, it serves the same 
purpose? Section 8.12.5.1.2 also does not apply and conditions or restrictions 
when placing a sprinkler on each side. Am I missing something?





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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Roland Huggins
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 8:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ESFR Sprinklers and Baffles

By spacing them at no less than 8 ft.  No being a SA (well too much of one) but 
that is simply one of the annoying limits on ESFR.  If close to 8 ft, try a 
staggered pattern (like often seen in days gone by).

Roland


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> On Sep 15, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Lamar Vaughn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I need some help with this, I find in NFPA 13 (2013) chapter 8
> acceptable ways to use baffles between close spaced heads but do not
> find this language with regard to ESFR sprinklers. Is it not
> acceptable to use baffles on these heads? And if not, how do you deal with 
> less than 8 ft.
> spacing? Thanks for your input.
>
> Lamar Vaughn, SET
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