We have AHJs impose sprinklers at outside patios often. We have always done QR 
sprinklers in those instances and calculate at 0.05 density which leads to just 
7 psi for 2 sprinklers. Never had an issue with it. 

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> On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:39 AM, Sean Lockyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> A question for everyone here: I have is a single family residence (NFPA 13D, 
> 2010 Edition) in which the owner is voluntarily wanting to protect the 
> exterior patio and lanai areas-all unheated areas. At the present, only Tyco 
> makes a residential dry pendent sprinkler; however, the owner also wants all 
> of the heads to be concealed and the only residential dry pendent is 
> semi-recessed. As such, the owner may then dictate that he wants 
> non-residential dry pendents that have a flat concealed plate. 
> 
> However, the local AHJ will (most likely based upon my prior experience) 
> require a proof calc of these areas in order to quantify the pipe sizing to 
> feed the non-residential standard heads. At that point it becomes a problem. 
> Per section 13D, 2010 Edition, 8.1.3.2 non-residential sprinklers are to be 
> installed per NFPA 13, not 13D, which would lend credence to a .10 
> density/900 sq. ft. design area (after reduction), etc. and for a simple 13D 
> simple coming off of a 1" meter it won't wont (I already tried the calcs, not 
> even close).
> 
> HOWEVER, the appendix (section A.8.6.4) states that a simple (2) head design 
> area using residential -or- quick response sprinklers may be used in 
> instances where the local AHJ requires the attic to be sprinkled. While this 
> is just the garage it kinda is in the same ballpark, intent-wise.
> 
> In addition, section 8.1.2 states that the design area is to consist of (2) 
> sprinklers in the most demanding compartment although this appears to be 
> intended to apply to residential heads only, and not non-residential 
> sprinklers.
> 
> I would love to use the Tyco, residential pendent but since Tyco is the only 
> manufacturer that makes a residential dry head they are getting their money's 
> worth and even if the owner is ok with semi-rec heads out in these areas he 
> may not be ok with the potential cost.
> 
> I hate to admit that a "little" house is kicking my backside but this is a 
> bit of a grey area. 
> 
> What does everyone think ? I would like to say I can figure this out on my 
> own but I need to humble myself a bit and reach out into the community since 
> I have been eating too much humble pie lately, lol.
> 
> 
>               Sean Lockyer
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