You just have to remember that if you are in a burning car you should get out before you enter the garage...or, make sure you shut the garage door once inside.
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | http://www.kfiengineers.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: individual garages for apt buildings - NFPA 13 In Seattle even the big parking garages for multi-family, 13 or 13R, don't (or at least didn't when I worked for a living) require them on self closing doors as the doors are considered to be very temporary obstructions at best. In the what realm though I suppose someone could say, but what if someone drove a burning car into the garage. People could die. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Roland Huggins <[email protected]> wrote: > That because it is not an allowance for 13. It is in 13R. > > 7.3.2.1 Garage doors shall not be considered obstructions and shall be > permitted to be ignored for placement and calculation of sprinklers. > > > > Roland > > > > Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives > Dallas, TX > http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/> > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Travis Mack, SET <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Was having a discussion with a contractor the other day. Do you > > guys > design/install sidewall sprinklers for under garage doors in apartment > buildings. I am referring to the garages where it is accessible only > by a single tenant, not a large parking garage with an apartment > complex. I don't find anything in 13 that allows it to be eliminated. > However, we run into a lot of these where the sidewall is not > installed. Just curious how others approach this. > > > > -- > > Travis Mack, SET > > MFP Design, LLC > > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > 480-505-9271 > > fax: 866-430-6107 > > email:[email protected] > > > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
