Thank you. We agree.

John Irwin
Sprinkler Construction Manager
Critical System Solutions, LLC
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Stossel
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA 14 / Remote FDC / Manual Stand-pipes

To the best of my knowledge, no exception exists for valves located on an FDC.  
The FDC will need to take connection to the standpipe and systems beyond all of 
the incoming source valves and backflow preventer.

   Mike Stossel
   NICET Level IV
   Automatic Sprinkler System Layout
   1070 38th Street
   Brooklyn N.Y. 11219
   Office: 718-633-3036 ext 114
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 11:32 AM
To: 
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>
Subject: NFPA 14 / Remote FDC / Manual Stand-pipes

When using a remote FDC on the underground line or the backflow device, how do 
we get around NFPA 14 2010 6.4.1 "Except for the valve required by 6.3.2, 
shutoff valves shall not be installed between the FDC and the system"?

I have done many yard FDCs on four story hotels over the years and have never 
had this question come up. NFPA 13 has an exception to allow for a remote FDC 
or an FDC tied in to a header, but 14 doesn't seem to have this same exception. 
I should note we have combination standpipes. Standpipes will be manual wet.


John Irwin
Sprinkler Construction Manager

Critical System Solutions, LLC
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
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