Just one more thing and then I'll quit.

"how to estimate the gpm of a flow test by yourself because you've lost the
pitot that came with the kit, and there are no formulas in the standards or
aps for that"

t = SQRT (2h/g)
where t is the 'time of flight' in seconds and h is the height of the butt
in feet.
Say h = 4ft. t=(8/32)^.5=.5 sec.
Say the length of the stream is 20 ft. If the water went 20 ft in .5 sec it
is going 40 ft/sec.
A 2.5" C=.9 butt is .0307 ft^2, * 40 ft/sec=1.228 ft^3/sec, *7.48*60= 551
GPM.

No one in their right mind would avocate basing final calcs on this.

So it's an open question as to wether or not I would.  . .

;)

Brad
On Oct 1, 2016 4:30 PM, "Brad Casterline" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Trevor.
> I like graphs. I'm a slow learner but i dont let that stop me.
> On Oct 1, 2016 4:11 PM, "Brad Casterline" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Wow Ron thanks!
>> That pow thing blows my mind but that's ok.
>> I might seem overly sensatitve about this but it is one of the two or
>> three 'light bulb' moments I've had in my sprinkler career. I don't know if
>> you have heard designers say things like, "suddenly it just clicked", or
>> not. I have, but I guess I'm the only one who heard gravity click with
>> sprinkler calcs. Before that Q,K,P was so mysterious, although I could
>> sleep at night, it was fitfull.
>>
>> Thanks again man,
>>
>> Brad
>> On Oct 1, 2016 3:54 PM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Brad-
>>>
>>> 919gpm using the standard formula by hand. The only trick is the square
>>> root of P which may have to be bracketed if it's not one you know. I can
>>> use a simple calculator for that though. Took about 45 seconds with a
>>> calculator with a square root function. A couple of minutes if i need to
>>> bracket and less than the 45 seconds if its a square root I know (like for
>>> 30).
>>>
>>> And here is the calculator tape for the truly annal:
>>>
>>> pow(30,1/2) * 6.25 * 0.9 * 29.83
>>> = 919.04421883382455
>>>
>>> 2.5 squared is just one of those I have memorized.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Trevor Spain <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you need to be able to print a report or save a report as a pdf,
>>>> download the free hydrant flow test program from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://igneusinc.com/files/files.html
>>>>
>>>> Trevor Spain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/1/2016 2:03 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.firehydrant.org/info/hycalc.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Love it and used it for years
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2016 2:52 PM, Travis Mack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Follow the formula in the standards.
>>>>>
>>>>> 29.83 x hydrant coefficient x pumper modification x diameter x
>>>>> diameter x sqrt (pitot pressure)
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep it all simple. No need to overcomplicate everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are even several apps to put in your phone to do this stuff.
>>>>> Keep it all simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Mack, SET
>>>>> MFP Design, LLC
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>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My pleasure Jeff, thanks for saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2016 1:32 PM, "Jeff Normand" <[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for sharing Brad.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Brad Casterline <
>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Say it's a 2.5" butt (small, smooth and well rounded my personal
>>>>> favorite) so C=.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> ((2.5/24) ^2) * PI = .034 ft^2.
>>>>> .034 * .9 = .0307 ft^2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Say pitot = 30 PSI.
>>>>> 30/.433=69.284 ft (h).
>>>>> v=(2gh)^.5=(2*32.2*69.284)^.5=69.8 ft/sec.
>>>>> .0307 ft^2 * 69.8 ft/sec = 2.05 ft^3/sec, * 7.48 * 60 = 920 GPM.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not too shabby!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
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