Pete, as always, your input is appreciated. One of the things I liked best 
about working for your company (way back when) was having you as a quick 
resource. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I don't know where to search for these Declaratory statements. I always do a 
fair amount of my own research before I send out for help.

I don't disagree with your latter statement but question whether a grill or 
cooktop would be classified as "cooking facilities".  For that matter, how is a 
permanent grill mounted in to a counter different from a portable grill that a 
resident on one of the lower floors might place on a balcony.

I believe my answer to the client will be that I can find no requirement to 
provide fire sprinklers on the penthouse balconies.

John Irwin - CET
Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
Licence Number: FPC16-000053
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Pete Schwab
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Sprinkler Protection on Balconies

John
I am going to have to start charging for my research. Here is a Declaratory 
statement for what you are asking minus the outdoor kitchens. If there is going 
to be a kitchen, I would say there will be cooking facilities and then in my 
opinion sprinklers would be required.
Pete

Peter Schwab
VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies

Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc.
222 Capitol Court
Ocoee, Fl 34761

Mobile: (407) 468-8248
Direct: (407) 877-5570
Fax: (407) 656-8026

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I sleep in a sprinklered home, do you?



From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:20 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Sprinkler Protection on Balconies

High-rise Condo Building. Non-combustible construction.  I refer to 8.15.7.1 
which points me to 8.15.7.2. If I meet the requirements of 8.15.7.2, can I stop 
reading and omit the sprinklers on the balcony? Specifically, the penthouse 
level balconies have outdoor kitchens. It's been questioned whether or not 
these are required to be protected. I can't find anything in NFPA 101, the 
Florida Fire Prevention Code or the Florida Building Code that would be more 
restrictive than 8.15.7.2

I say the sprinkler protection is not required, outdoor kitchen or not.

Comments?

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John Irwin - CET
Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
License Number: FPC16-000053
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>




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