WA State Building Code Council has created and adopted new code amendment that affects processing of the dope.
Link: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=51-54A-3800 Slightly off normal forum interests, but tax revenues of THC products passed that of hard liquor in WA State last summer. Best Bruce Verhei Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 15:56, John Paulsen <[email protected]> wrote: > > This industry never ceases to find new ways to keep us challenged. Until this > string came across the forums, I was completely ignorant that these > facilities existed. A quick search on-line (thank you Google) clued me into > what an “MJ” facility was and subsequent articles that I found mentioned that > Colorado was requiring certification letters stamped by a PE evaluating the > heat loads, (lamps) gas hazards (CO2, Butane Etc.) and building mechanical > systems including the sprinkler system design density. I assume this is due > to the wide range of potential hazards from growing, extraction, or sales > operations. > > Now that I’ve seen this discussion and read some of the material associated > with this issue, it amazes me more people weren’t killed in clandestine > illegal grow and extraction operations. Whether you’re for or against > legalization of “MJ”, at least when it’s legal, the grow operations are much > safer places than the illegal ones. > > One odd thing though. This topic really seemed to peak my 20 something design > trainee’s interest. Strange! > > John P. > Crown Fire Systems Design > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Grow Facilities > > Interesting timing. The latest FPC magazine came in the mail today. It has > an article on a grow facility. They used the basis of a tobacco facility to > arrive at OH2. This was for a facility in CO. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > On 5/31/2017 1:58 PM, AKS-Gmail-IMAP wrote: > It sounds like a reasonable request, but not on your nickel. > > The CO2 enrichment may have no impact unless the grow design involves some > sort of CO2 containment tent that interferes with the sprinkler discharge. > > The flammable liquids/gases is about the solvents or say, propane, that is > used to extract the THC. That is not a “grow” operation but may likely be a > process they do on site. One might do some checking to see if OH2 is OK but > it is probably not. > > Perhaps the "hazardous waste” mention is in regard to someone questioning > whether or not there would be a quantity of THC laden sprinkler water that > needs to be contained instead of allowed to discharge to the environment. > Maybe the leaf removal process that happens in the last grow step to > encourage bud growth generates enough “waste” stored on site to be of concern. > > By the way, there is a very good chance the ceiling temperature above the > grow lighting is much hotter than you might expect. Furthermore, if the > ventilation system fails for some reason and the lighting is not > automatically turned off, then all bets are off. You might also take note if > the lighting design tries to congregate the lighting ballasts at some > unexpected location that creates an odd situation. > > Allan Seidel > St. Louis, MO > > > On May 31, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Travis Mack, SET <[email protected]> wrote: > > That note comes from the plan reviewer. My firm was hired to design to OH2. > But it got rejected by the AHJ and had that note on the rejection. My scope > was well defined and this is way out of the scope. So I was just wondering > what others have encountered in these facilities. > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > On 5/31/2017 12:49 PM, Prahl, Craig/GVL wrote: > Where does that note come from? The AHJ or owner or Engineer of Record? > > Either way that info should be provided by the Engineer of Record to the > installing contractor to be included in submittals to the AHJ. I would > certainly hope an Engineer is not dumping this off on the installing > contractor. > > > Craig L. Prahl > Fire Protection Group Lead/SME > CH2M > 200 Verdae Blvd. > Greenville, SC 29607 > Direct - 864.920.7540 > Fax - 864.920.7129 > CH2MHILL Extension 77540 > [email protected] > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Grow Facilities [EXTERNAL] > > This is obviously outside of our scope and I am punting this back up the > chain. But, has anyone that is sprinklering these MJ facilties run into this: > "Provide a letter from a state licensed PE or Consulting Firm approved by the > City of XXXXXXX, that supports the fire sprinkler design assumptions. The > letter shall be signed (wet) and address the design assumptions that includes > the use of CO2 enrichment, flammable liquids/gasses, and hazardous waste and > the impact that includes the overall Heat Release Rate (HRR) and the ability > of the fire sprinkler system to suppress a fire. Reference 2016 state fire > code section xxx.x.x" > I used xxx to block out any reference to the particular project. > Any ideas on this stuff. We were hired to just design the system per OH2. > This is going to get interesting. > -- > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > <image001.jpg> > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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