Frankly all I'm looking for is a complete breakdown of the true overall cost of 
a home fire sprinkler system, soup to nuts.  A spreadsheet breaking out every 
last item would be great.

I have no faith in the numbers being cited as I've witnessed firsthand numbers 
in the $ 3- $ 4 per square foot range with all things considered.

John Drucker
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I think you are out of touch with most people. The typical question is not “how 
much is it?” But instead, “How much per month?” Ownership of something they 
likely didn’t want in the first place is not going to come in to play.

Plus, you are likely not going to take it with you, so what difference does it 
make?

Home fire sprinklers are simply about how can we do it at low cost and still be 
effective. In areas with high meter fees, the Talco Home Hydrant is great to 
offset cost. Where the meter cost is not a factor, basic riser is best option. 
It’s all about cost effective for this game.

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 4:56 PM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

I would think a home owner would (eventually) prefer to OWN their fire 
sprinkler water supply John-- lock, stock, and barrel...
Brad.
Quoting John Drucker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

How much $$$$  ?   Are owners on board having in their homes ?  How does the 
cost effect the square foot estimates being cited ?  Lets get some real world 
answers and costs.


John Drucker




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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Date: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 13:48

To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;

Subject:Re: Average cost for 13D systems


Pressure Tanks are an approved water supply. No city connection. No
BFP. No fire pump. I can see "13D Pressure Tank" brochures and the
$$/sf stabilizing and, over time, coming down.
Brad.


Quoting John Drucker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

EXACTLY, and the standby fees that are also being imposed.

Customers are looking at the BIG picture, aka the bottom line and
when a SEPARATE fire service is required by the water purveyor
and/or RPZ BACKFLOW preventers it all ADDS UP.

So just what is the TRUE cost, in some cases a lot more than the
averages, means, estimates, etc etc,  Welcome to my world.

John Drucker, CET
Assistant Construction Official
Fire and Electrical Subcode Official
Building Inspector
Building Department
Borough of Red Bank, NJ
Cell/Text 732-904-6823
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Verhei [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:02 PM
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The unresolved cost issue remains connection to water system.

Best.


Bruce Verhei

On Nov 14, 2017, at 08:56, Steve Leyton
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

So answering my own question, NFPA Research Foundation updated the
report in 2013.

Checkioutpeople:   cost has actually dropped.


Mean


$1.61 (2008)


$1.35 (2013)








Median


$1.42 (2008)


$1.22 (2013)









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Steve Leyton
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:57 AM
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Average cost for 13D systems

NFPARF published an estimate of average cost for a residential
(one/two family) sprinkler system in 2009 in the run-up to the IRC
vote that year.  I think the number was $1.61; does anyone know if
they or HFSC have published an updated cost estimate recently?

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