Sounds like the designer is a little confused. The PIV won't prevent flow unless it's closed and let's hope it's not closed.
Cliff Whitfield, SET President Fire Design, Inc. 184 Comfort Place Burnsville, NC 28714 Ph: 828-284-4772 [email protected] www.fire-design.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 11:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 2013 NFPA 13, Figure A.8.16.1.1 Check valve in supply When that reason was presented to the designer they stated that's what the PIV on the UG was for. To isolate the UG from the AG system. Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Denhardt Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 10:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: 2013 NFPA 13, Figure A.8.16.1.1 Check valve in supply Exactly. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, P.E. Strickland Fire Protection Incorporated 4011 Penn Belt Place Forestville, Maryland 20747-4737 301.474.1136 - Office 301.343.1457 - Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Carr Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 2013 NFPA 13, Figure A.8.16.1.1 Check valve in supply I have always thought the check valve was to so the FDC did not pump up the underground. Richard M. Carr, SET Project Manager/Design Diboco Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 325 Jackson Loop Road Flat Rock, NC 28731 [email protected] 828-696-3400 828-696-2288 Fax 828-708-9118 Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 10:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: 2013 NFPA 13, Figure A.8.16.1.1 Check valve in supply Having a discussion with a designer concerning a manifolded riser assembly which has a dry pipe system and wet pipe system as shown in 2013 NFPA 13, Figure A.8.16.1.1. The question is the purpose of the check valve in the portion below the split at the manifold. Their FDC is piped in accordance with the detail. The designer says the check valve in the vertical is not needed because they are on a non-potable water supply and they have a PIV outside. Thoughts, opinions? Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_ listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwIFAw&c=OgZOSER8c1RLeytEe xU279Q2qk0jVwkrOdYe5iSi-kk&r=6qYbbLx8x0UrMujmEGNoh-2hzoFD2d1EB5d2sQF0_OI&m=M Iyv3E2h5_6bDxuz4mKDKbGlpUL2hNWwltHyMeMVZsY&s=rP1gn3mNbmZ2b-Rjkl4sdxzEZTemTYv i4gejV-TbxNY&e= _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_ listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwIFAw&c=OgZOSER8c1RLeytEe xU279Q2qk0jVwkrOdYe5iSi-kk&r=6qYbbLx8x0UrMujmEGNoh-2hzoFD2d1EB5d2sQF0_OI&m=M Iyv3E2h5_6bDxuz4mKDKbGlpUL2hNWwltHyMeMVZsY&s=rP1gn3mNbmZ2b-Rjkl4sdxzEZTemTYv i4gejV-TbxNY&e= _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_ listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwIFAw&c=OgZOSER8c1RLeytEe xU279Q2qk0jVwkrOdYe5iSi-kk&r=6qYbbLx8x0UrMujmEGNoh-2hzoFD2d1EB5d2sQF0_OI&m=M Iyv3E2h5_6bDxuz4mKDKbGlpUL2hNWwltHyMeMVZsY&s=rP1gn3mNbmZ2b-Rjkl4sdxzEZTemTYv i4gejV-TbxNY&e= _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
