I don’t want to stand in the way of clarity so if adding the word “motorcycle” or rounding off the edges by using “motorized vehicles” helps, then party on Garth. But as Chet used to say, I think you’re picking the fly sh*t out of the pepper if you’re trying to classify motorcycle tires as a different commodity than the EIGHT different vehicle classes listed in the definition of rubber tires. They had me at “trailers”.
Steve L. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Denhardt Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 6:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Storage of motorcycle tires I guess Larry, myself, and anyone else attending the 2022 NFPA 13 meetings will try to clarify this item. John John August Denhardt, P.E. Strickland Fire Protection On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Kyle.Montgomery <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agree, Larry. But I’m curious if anyone knows if the committee chose to specifically exclude those types of tires or if, like you’re suggesting, they just neglected to include them. The format of that definition is kind of weird, but maybe there was a purpose? -Kyle M From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Keeping Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 7:57 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Storage of motorcycle tires This is just my opinion, but just because the definition doesn’t reference motorcycle tires (or ATV tires for that matter, or the one on my wheel barrow) doesn’t negate the fact that motorcycle tires are rubber tires. That definition doesn’t comply with the NFPA Manual of Style either, so the definition is definitely flawed. However, in Chapter 18 of NFPA 13-2013 (for example) tires on racks on tread are covered, so I don’t think you really have a problem with design criteria. Larry Keeping From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of David Bitton Sent: July-12-19 4:34 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Storage of motorcycle tires I am looking at a storage area for motorcycle tires on fixed racks on tread. NFPA 13 excludes such tires from its definition of rubber tires (FM 8-3 does not). I would like your opinion about how to determine protection criteria for this storage? (Miscellaneous storage does not apply.) Thanks, David Bitton, ing./Eng. Quest Loss Control Services Inc. Les services de prévention des sinistres Quest 5100, rue de la Savane, bureau 200 Montréal, Québec H4P 1T8 (514) 341-4545 www.questlosscontrol.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.questlosscontrol.com_&d=DwMFAw&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=J5_tOqM--VD7fMiaSAwPKs1OFGJNnrK2iqoFTMJi1Wg&s=IBcrAOOnrVS15r8vYiaF5QbgeRskuckNl8o_dN0fSL8&e=> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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