Thanks Ron and others for your responses. I told the Arch that these cylinders needed to be in or very near the protected area. Yeah they take up floor space, which is a premium. So we have this nice big fire riser room where they can be placed. Works great but kind of far from the protected areas.
There are two pressure classes, 360 psi and 725 psi. The contractor didn't identify which pressure class they were using, I suspect it's the lower which would create a distance problem between discharge and cylinders. And my apologies for asking this question here since this is really a suppression related question more so than a fire sprinkler question. I thought someone here might work in both types of systems and have run up against this in the past. I appreciate those jumping in with suggestions. Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Ron Greenman <[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flexible assembly for Novec 1230 at seismic separation joint I'm guessing the architect's solution to HIS mistake for not researching the need for adequate space is to put the bottles on the "wrong" side of the seismic wall. I just looked at a website for this stuff and from the photos on the home page concluded that a lot of space might be required and had I been him maybe sought the advice of someone familiar with the requirements, someone like the manufacturer. also, looking at that webpage I saw each bottle being fed into piping held together with grooved couplings. This led me to the simplest of solutions, which I suspect you looked into and rejected, but I've been around the block enough times to know that sometimes the simple solutions tp problems just elude us, so could you use the multi-joint seismic connection from NFPA 13? And when you think, "Of course I have you moron," I'll not take offense. 🤔 Ron Greenman [email protected] 253.576.9700 The Universe is monstrously indifferent to the presence of man. -Werner Herzog, screenwriter, film director, author, actor and opera director (1942-) On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 AM Shawn Foor via Sprinklerforum < [email protected]> wrote: > What kind of pressure are you talking about? I think the fireloop is > only rated to 300 psi > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM Jeff Normand via Sprinklerforum < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.metrafire.com/fireloop/__;!!B > > 5cixuoO7ltTeg!Wis9A6a2s6wJf0uuJTm7JQu3N7yH67oQORIxdHGzUDGmDFfIi8rei4 > > bGJspC7xpnQw$ > > > > Think they can be mounted horizontally and vertically. > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:44 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum > > < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Has anyone had to provide a flexible assembly on a NOVEC 1230 > > > system > > where > > > the piping has to pass through a seismic separation joint? > > > > > > Looking for options. 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