A liquor store across the street is wanting to use this building they own to 
store their stock.

They buy a bunch of booze, and roll it in on dollies. Box by box of liquor in 
bottles to be sold to the public. But not at this locations.

They unload the dollies, and stack it on the floor. High as they can reach.

No pallets, no shrink wrap, this is a stockroom that is in another building.

R/
Matt

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Of Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
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Subject: Re: Liquor above 20% Alcohol Containers less than 1.3 gallons

Sometimes the packaging is the “commodity.“ Something you’ll never see but 
consider gold ingots individually packed in styrofoam, in cardboard boxes held 
together with shrink wrap, stacked on plastic pallets, stored in a vault. 
What’s the…?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:33 AM Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum < 
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:

> Standard box you would see at a liquor store.
>
> Just stockpiling them in one side of a building.
>
> I assume there are both plastic/glass containers, with cardboard 
> dividers as usual.
>
> R/
> Matt
>
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> On Behalf Of Mike Morey via Sprinklerforum
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>
> Maybe I missed it but what is the container material inside the box?  
> I'm guessing not metal as I think there are criteria for metal but 
> plastic/glass require rack storage with one of the in-rack "schemes" 
> to make most configurations work.  All the ones I've done recently 
> were based on rack storage and a quick look doesn't show a lot of 
> solid pile/palletized options.
>
> Mike Morey
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 9:54 AM
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> Subject: RE: Liquor above 20% Alcohol Containers less than 1.3 gallons
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> BE ADVISED - This email originated outside EMCOR.
>
>
> Guess I should add,
>
> Solid pile of boxes, 10 feet ceiling..
>
>
> R/
> Matt
>
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> On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 7:50 AM
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> Subject: Liquor above 20% Alcohol Containers less than 1.3 gallons
>
> I think I have ran myself into a circle. Again.
>
> This is in reference to  the 2016 change in 13, from 50% to 20% being 
> the max allowed percent alcohol.
>
> I need to protect 15,000 gallons in a Non "M" occupancy.
>
> Now NFPA 13, NFPA 30, And the IFC all tell me they do not apply.
>
> What did I miss?
>
>
> R/
> Matt
>
> Matthew J. Willis
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