Doing some commissioning work on a new one for New Balance here in Boston. Building shaped like a peanut, curved walls and roof. Almost every space is OH2, large sprinkler loads, half the place is K=8 heads. 10 stairways, some only between 2 floors. Large movable wooden track, protection over and below. 55' ceiling above track. Point is.. The other buildings on this site which have Celtic and Bruins practice spaces we did a few years ago have a ton of open areas all used as storage of some really interesting stuff. How about 30' of pads in a portable rack. Retractable wooden bleachers never planned for. They have these 2 small electric forklifts to pile mats up 20' to the limit. New one both levels of garage are filled with boxes of stuff going in. You name it. I think this particular type of building is one I would take a longer look at. Seems every room labeled a multi-purpose will become storage (full or part time) as well as the adjacent open areas. Serious loading and beyond what a vanilla modelling might predict.
-----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, February 07, 2022 9:17 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL <craig.pr...@jacobs.com>; Bob Caputo <bcap...@firesprinkler.org>; tston...@comcast.net Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE Take it a step farther. You need to look at all the various areas within the building. For multi-use buildings, you can have various levels of hazards under one roof. This is one reason why you can't use the annex as an end-all of occupancies. Tall, open areas need to be looked at differently than standard height 8-10 ft areas. Look at your sprinkler listings. A sprinkler Listed for LH may have a ceiling height limitation. Don't ya just love the wild and wooly world of fire protection? 😊 Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | craig.pr...@jacobs.com | www.jacobs.com 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 CONTACT BY: email or MS TEAMS -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On Behalf Of Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 8:58 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Bob Caputo <bcap...@firesprinkler.org>; tston...@comcast.net Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE Not in my opinion. We should always look at the definitions for each occupancy classification as opposed to the list in the annex. These facilities have a lot of plastics and combustibles that exceed the definition of light hazard and they are of heights exceeding 8 ft so OH1 is probably not adequate. When I look at the foam in landing pits of gymnasiums or even the bleachers, I'd have a hard time seeing a simple gymnasium as light hazard. This is a personal opinion. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>> On Behalf Of tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 7:44 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Cc: tston...@comcast.net<mailto:tston...@comcast.net> Subject: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE NFPA does not define Field houses. Indoor Track, Basketball Courts, Tennis Courts and Climbing Wall. The new building will be 37'-0 high to the peak of a flat roof. Would it be safe to use Light Hazard Occupancy? Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638 <mailto:tston...@comcast.net> tston...@comcast.net<mailto:tston...@comcast.net> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.o__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!ST2dG3hqxRkvBw-dzx61kx0gBeM41Dd__thMJ_eFqHAjzCxZygMolAa1ML5_7cG_uA$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.o__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!ST2dG3hqxRkvBw-dzx61kx0gBeM41Dd__thMJ_eFqHAjzCxZygMolAa1ML5_7cG_uA$> rg _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!ST2dG3hqxRkvBw-dzx61kx0gBeM41Dd__thMJ_eFqHAjzCxZygMolAa1ML4wgnIYqQ$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!ST2dG3hqxRkvBw-dzx61kx0gBeM41Dd__thMJ_eFqHAjzCxZygMolAa1ML4wgnIYqQ$> ________________________________ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
