If it becomes 4 storey, you might require a standpipe. Tony On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:10 AM <matthew.will...@ferguson.com> wrote:
> I suggest a careful reading of 6.6.6 in 13R. > > > > While a 13D system ignores storage in attics, 13R does not allow the same > considerations. > > > > Appropriately, I think Todd means, if the area becomes a “Story” or not as > defined in IBC. > > > > Then it would be treated like a dwelling unit. > > > > Otherwise, you are running into an area outside the dwelling unit and get > kicked back to 13 for Design. > > > > My observation on limited data. > > > > R/ > > Matt > > > > > > > > *Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, C.E.T.* > > *Ferguson Fire Design, LLC* > > D: (602) 337-0721 <http://(602)%20337-0721> C: (307) 236-8249 > <http://(307)%20236-8249> > > matthew.will...@ferguson.com > > > > *From:* Dapr Jones <daprjo...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2024 8:52 PM > *To:* Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> > *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Re: NFPA 13R - Multifamily with attic access > > > > *Caution: This email originated from outside of the organization. DO NOT > click links or open attachments unless you recognize and trust the sender. * > ------------------------------ > > Thanks Todd, much appreciated. Yes, it would still be 13R I agree. > > When you say " it would need to be appropriately protected" do you mean > the attic would need to be sprinklered? > > > > It would become accessible to the tenant and they would likely use it for > storage. Does 13R allow omission of sprinklers only for attics not used > for storage? > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 1:42 PM Fpdcdesign <fpdcdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As far as access, attic access could be allowed unless prohibited by > Building Code or other restriction (ie zoning approval). > > > > However, since it is accessible for living space or storage, it would need > to be appropriately protected. Even then, it could be considered 4 stories > instead of 3 and it would still be 13R. > > > > Todd Williams > > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > Stonington, CT > > 860-608-4559 > > > > > On Jul 28, 2024 at 1:31 PM, <Dapr Jones <daprjo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'm working on a project that is 3 stories with attic, multifamily > residential, type VA construction. > > We designed the system to NFPA 13R, with no sprinklers in the attic. > Now the architect wants to add access to the attic for the 3'rd floor > tenant. > (note, there's only one tenant on the 3rd fl. of this building) > > My question is, can the architect actually allow access to the attic for a > tenant in a multifamily as far as the building or fire codes are concerned? > If yes, would sprinklers be required in the attic in this case? > (considering tenant will likely use it as storage) > > Thanks > > > > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org >
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