2023 Florida Building Code, 8th Edition:

[F] 905.8 Dry standpipes.
Dry standpipes shall not be installed.
Exception: Where subject to freezing and in accordance with NFPA 14.


From: John Irwin <jir...@solomonplumbing.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 1:10 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Dock System / Stand pipe

Probably not doing that.  =)  Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention 
Code are as far as I dig.



John Irwin
Florida Fire Sprinkler Division
Solomon Plumbing

From: Steve Leyton 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 4:08 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Dock System / Stand pipe

Evuhbody needa reeda IBC §905.8.

From: Fpdcdesign <fpdcdes...@gmail.com<mailto:fpdcdes...@gmail.com>>
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Dock System / Stand pipe

Far am I to challenge Mr Layton on a standpipe question. However, my first 
reaction was why not. Pumps and underground are shared between buildings, why 
not between a building and a marina? Connected to a 1000 gpm pump, it would 
most likely end up automatic wet instead of manual dry.

This opinion is based only on information previously received. There may be 
other circumstances that could make the preferred outcome different.

Todd Williams
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860-608-4559

On Jul 30, 2024 at 3:06 PM, <John Irwin<mailto:jir...@solomonplumbing.net>> 
wrote:
I have a situation I have not come across before. New construction of an 8 
story hotel at the marina. Plans also call for a manual dry dock hose system. 
This will require, one, maybe two hose valves. The dock is located on the side 
of the hotel opposite the street. Civil plans call for an underground run from 
the front of the hotel, all the way around the property, along the sea wall, to 
the dock.

I have a stair well, with a stand pipe in it, about 20 ft from where the dock 
hose valves would need to be.

Can I delete the manual dry hose and feed from the hotel stand pipe system? Or 
even directly from the fire pump would be preferable to all the underground 
work. Can I change the FDC sign on the front of the hotel to include the dock 
hose valves? “Hotel & Dock FDC”

My pump is already 1000GPM. Would adding these hose valves effectively make 
them part of the stand pipe system? Is there any reason in NFPA 13 or 14 that I 
can’t extend my stand pipe system out horizontally?

John Irwin
Florida Fire Sprinkler Division
Solomon Plumbing
www.solomonplumbing.net
Cell: 727-282-9243
Office: 248-486-1600 (Corporate)

“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price 
is forgotten.” – Benjamin Franklin

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