To back up Steve Walsh’s comment, the water cannon will get used. I’m somewhat 
out of date. If manual I’d locate below smoke layer. I’d assume remote control 
would come with some form of camera operating outside normal visual spectrum. 

Best.
 
Bruce Verhei

> On 11/17/2025 3:03 PM PST Welsh, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Get the owner to clearly delineate what is being stored where and any 
> insurance requirements.
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> Group A plastic solid pile storage 18-feet high for plastic areas (unless you 
> can justify Class IV by weight) (usually there is not expanded)
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> Minimum Class III in paper areas
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> Provide draft curtains between hazard areas if not separate rooms
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> Some insurance companies or corporate standard require supplemental water 
> monitors (cannons)
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> Steve Welsh, PE  \  Burns & McDonnell
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> Senior Fire Protection Engineer
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> M 410-978-3836 tel:410-978-3836 
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> From: James Crawford <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2025 4:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Recycling Plant
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> More information
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> Storage of standard household recyclables, paper, cardboard, plastics, metal, 
> glass.
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> Standard recycling, bulk drop off, then separation into classes then baled 
> and shipped out.
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> Thank You
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> James Crawford
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> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
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> Phone 604-888-0318 tel:604-888-0318
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> Cel: 604-790-0938 tel:604-790-0938
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> Email [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
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> Web: www.phaserfire.ca http://www.phaserfire.ca/
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> From: James Crawford <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2025 1:03 PM
> To: [email protected] 
> mailto:[email protected]
> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Recycling Plant
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> We are looking at a recycling plant where the pipes could be up to 18’ high.
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> Are we looking at general storage or is there a standard for this type of 
> application?
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> My design brain is saying this is a higher hazard than normal.
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> Thank You
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> James Crawford
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> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
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> Phone 604-888-0318 tel:604-888-0318
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> Cel: 604-790-0938 tel:604-790-0938
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> Email [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
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> Web: www.phaserfire.ca http://www.phaserfire.ca/
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