On 6/4/07, Paul Kippes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I found the thread about PYTHONPATH--interesting. > > It does seem that eggs are not only preventing the expected behavior, > but they are also preventing the documented behavior. > > However, I don't think that using eggs is the best choice for a fast > progressing library like SQLAlchemy--especially with this behavior. > Plus, if the egg developer isn't participating in a discussion on > this, why should that distribution method even be used?
Are you talking about this thread? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2007-May/007513.html I'm not sure that this is especially relevant to SQLAlchemy per se. Python has a language-wide problem in that: 1) Setuptools has become a de-facto standard but is not bundled with Python, forcing users to find and and install ez_setup.py. Users also have to do tricks with their site.py to get a local egg directory separate from site-packages, or use workingenv.py or Virtual Python. People who aren't Python programmers but just want to run an application (e.g., sysadmins) don't understand why they should have to do this -- it seems like a grave defect in the language and it turns them off from Python. 2) The distutils code is apparently very patched up and in need of a rewrite before setuptools is integrated, but there are no programmer volunteers to do it. 3) A few people don't like the setuptools approach and do not want it in the standard library. 4) Setuptools does not have an "uninstall" option or clean up old bin/ scripts. You can have two versions of an egg installed simultaneously but only one set of bin/ scripts, the latest-installed ones overwriting the previous. Over time you end up with a version mess and have to start again with a fresh library directory to clean it up, plus cleaning out the bin/ directory by hand. -- Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sqlalchemy" group. To post to this group, send email to sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
