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> From: sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:sqlalch...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Crusty
> Sent: 24 September 2009 16:16
> To: sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [sqlalchemy] Re: unexpected chained relations and 
> "append" behaviour
> 
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> thanks for your answer, I will have a look into that.
> By the way:  len(car.parts) does indeed work, try it ;)
> 
> Greetings, Tom
> 

len(car.parts) works with your current configuration, because accessing
car.parts loads the entire relation and returns it as a python list. But
if you change it to be a 'dynamic' relation, it will no longer be a list
but a Query instance, which no longer has a __len__ method.

Simon

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