what happens when you rip out all cache code entirely ? you ceratainly need to 
shut all of that off unconditionally before attempting to understand your issue.


On May 7, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Ergo wrote:

> Im lost and clueless maybe im completly dumb :(
> 
> im trying really hard but i cant understand the problem.
> 
> every request calls meta.Session.remove() at the end of request - i
> checked it does that.
> 
> Now even when i do:
> 
> meta.Session.query(User).order_by(User.username).limit(30)
> 
> I see the query executed - but i get completly old data.
> 
> I never had to do expire_all() in my pylons application before, im
> wondering if introduced some kind of problem to my application but im
> completly clueless about what could be possible case.
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