On 10/01/2012 04:48 PM, Michael Bayer wrote:
If I understand correctly, this isn't accurate.  Your query needs the usage of 
query.join(), and this usage is not related to whether or not you supply a 
complete entity to select from.


I wasn't using explicit .join(), except an outerjoin on a one-to-one relation with images table (which by default is lazyloaded). I thought SQLA would figure it out itself based on foreign keys, as it usually does. Maybe that's wrong, maybe I should be explicit, but so far it worked (when entire instances of declarative_base were given to session.query()).

I forgot to mention, and this could be the cause of perceived problems, that I was listing columns of more than one model in the session.query(). Maybe that confused it.

What happened was that the query returned a list of named tuples for each of the rows returned by the database, while I was expecting only one instance of the main model (see below).


I'm not sure what "won't automatically process inner joins" means, does that 
mean, you get an error message, or you're forced to call .join() as opposed to some other 
system of joining two entites, or what.

I mean the cartesian cross-product in queries with many-to-many relations. SQLA would "automatically" recognize the queried models and construct the model instances and their relationships properly.

E.g. if I query for single model that has X related in a many-to-many fashion, the query would return X number of rows, like with .joinedload(), but SQLA would return only one instance of the model, and its related property filled with a list of X instances of that model, i.e it would automatically process the joins and create a relationship tree in the session.

I hope I'm making sense here. :)

I guess I should make a minimal example case for this, and will do as time permits.

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