On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Jonathan Vanasco <jonat...@findmeon.com> wrote:

> I just spend 30mins with pdb; I was wrong ; I think it would be way too hard 
> to get it into the ORM.  The way MutableDict seems to be currently 
> integrated, the entire value is updated for the key , and the original value 
> seems to be obliterated.
> 
> Outside of the ORM -- do you have any references for the update & insert ?  
> do you think it would be possible to implement this in select ?

this stuff should work completely in core, if you look at the examples in the 
0.8 migration for ARRAY, that should give a feel for it, the same types of 
things should all work for HSTORE : 
http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_8/changelog/migration_08.html#enhanced-postgresql-array-type




> 
> Our HSTORE data is small now, but growing -- we're using it to store revision 
> history.   I've been experimenting with using `deferred` columns to keep them 
> from being loaded on the main query, then accessing only when needed.  If we 
> can only pull out and update the relevant KV-pairs, there would be even 
> smaller overhead.
> 
> -- Sorry if i'm hijacking this thread, Philip. From your example usage 
> though, I think we have the same concerns/issue ; I've just been approaching 
> it from a slightly different standpoint.
> 
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