no DBAPI I've tested does it, at most it would only be possible for PG, SQL 
Server dialects.

On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Cosmia Luna <cosm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, I didn't know that... is it a bug?
> 
> But, the RETURNING clause will work though :)
> 
> stmt = P.__table__.insert(returning=[P.id], values=[{"val": 1}, {"val": 2}])
> with engine.connect() as conn:
>     result = conn.execute(stmt)
>     # do something with result
> 
> hmm, maybe perfomance suffers from huge-size-SQL...... well, which I didn't 
> test
> 
> Cosmia
> 
> On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:39:51 PM UTC+8, Michael Bayer wrote:
> RETURNING doesn't work with DBAPI's "executemany" style of execution, 
> however, which is what conn.execute(stmt, [list of parameter sets]) calls.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 5:33 AM, Cosmia Luna <cos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> INSERT statement of postgresql supports RETURNING, read this 
>> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_8/core/dml.html#sqlalchemy.sql.expression.Insert.returning
>> 
>> On Monday, March 24, 2014 2:43:46 PM UTC+8, James Meneghello wrote:
>> Oops, I should add - the reason I can't use an itertools counter to 
>> pre-assign IDs is because the table is potentially being dumped to by 
>> multiple scripts, which is why I have to commit the parts prior to the 
>> segments (since engine.execute can't return multiple insert_ids).
>> 
>> On Monday, 24 March 2014 14:40:52 UTC+8, James Meneghello wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick reply!
>> 
>> This seems to work pretty well. I took out the batching (as it's already 
>> batched at a higher level) and modified it to suit the insertion of children 
>> as well (and reducded the unique to a single field) , and it appears to work.
>> 
>> with db_session() as db:
>>     existing_entries = dict(
>>         ((entry.subject, entry) for entry in
>>             
>> db.query(Entry).filter(Entry.subject.in_(entries.keys())).options(subqueryload('segments')).all()
>>         )
>>     )
>> 
>>     segment_inserts = []
>>     for subject, entry in entries.items():
>>         existing_entry = existing_entries.get(subject, None)
>>         if existing_entry:
>>             segments = dict(((s.segment, s) for s in 
>> existing_entry.segments))
>>             for segment_number, segment in entry['segments'].items():
>>                 if int(segment_number) not in segments:
>>                     segment['entry_id'] = existing_entry.id
>>                     segment_inserts.append(segment)
>>         else:
>>             entry_id = engine.execute(Entry.__table__.insert(), 
>> entry).inserted_primary_key
>>             for segment in entry['segments'].values():
>>                 segment['entry_id'] = entry_id[0]
>>                 segment_inserts.append(segment)
>> 
>>     engine.execute(Segment.__table__.insert(), segment_inserts)
>> 
>> For 20,000 segments, this ends up being about 45 seconds and 1650 queries - 
>> 2 to select all the entries and segments, 1 to insert the segments and the 
>> rest to insert parts. From here, however, I rewrote it a bit:
>> 
>>     with db_session() as db:
>>         existing_entries = dict(
>>             ((entry.subject, entry) for entry in
>>                 
>> db.query(Entry).filter(Entry.subject.in_(entries.keys())).all()
>>             )
>>         )
>> 
>>         entry_inserts = []
>>         for subject, entry in entries.items():
>>             existing_entry = existing_entries.get(subject, None)
>>             if not existing_entry:
>>                 entry_inserts.append(entry)
>> 
>>         engine.execute(Entry.__table__.insert(), entry_inserts)
>> 
>>         existing_entries = dict(
>>             ((entry.subject, entry) for entry in
>>                 
>> db.query(Entry).filter(Entry.subject.in_(entries.keys())).options(subqueryload('segments')).all()
>>             )
>>         )
>> 
>>         segment_inserts = []
>>         for subject, entry in entries.items():
>>             existing_entry = existing_entries.get(subject, None)
>>             if existing_entry:
>>                 segments = dict(((s.segment, s) for s in 
>> existing_entry.segments))
>>                 for segment_number, segment in entry['segments'].items():
>>                     if int(segment_number) not in segments:
>>                         segment['entry_id'] = existing_entry.id
>>                         segment_inserts.append(segment)
>>             else:
>>                 log.error('i\'ve made a huge mistake')
>> 
>>         engine.execute(Segment.__table__.insert(), segment_inserts)
>> 
>> This ends up being about 19 seconds, 6 queries for a clean dump, and a bit 
>> less if the table is already populated. Removing the unique indexes on both 
>> the entries and segments tables and replacing them with standard indexes 
>> saves about a second in a full dump, and about 6 seconds for an update. I'm 
>> pretty happy with where it is now, and I suspect most of the time (aside 
>> from the two insert calls) is being spent in Python. That said, if you have 
>> any tips for improvements I'd be all ears.
>> 
>> Thanks for the help!
>> 
>> On Monday, 24 March 2014 09:19:25 UTC+8, Michael Bayer wrote:
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:33 AM, James Meneghello <muro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm having a few issues with unique constraints and bulk inserts. The 
>>> software I'm writing takes data from an external source (a lot of it, 
>>> anywhere from 1,000 rows per minute to 100-200k+), crunches it down into 
>>> its hierarchy and saves it to the DB, to be aggregated in the background. 
>>> The function handling the initial DB save is designed to work with about 
>>> 20-50k rows at a time - very little modification takes place, it's pretty 
>>> much just grabbed and thrown into the table. Obviously the amount of data 
>>> being saved somewhat excludes the use of the ORM in this particular table, 
>>> but there are a number of other tables that benefit from using the ORM. 
>>> Hence, the small stuff uses the ORM and the big stuff uses the Core.
>>> 
>>> The main problem I'm having is with the initial save. The data comes in 
>>> unordered and sometimes contains duplicates, so there's a UniqueConstraint 
>>> on Entry on sub, division, created. Unfortunately, this hampers the bulk 
>>> insert - if there's a duplicate, it rolls back the entire insert and hence 
>>> the entries aren't available to be referenced by the segments later. 
>>> Obviously, capturing it in a try/catch would skip the whole block as well. 
>>> Both Entry and Segment have the same problem - there are often duplicate 
>>> segments. Since there's a large amount of data being pushed through it, I 
>>> assume it's impractical to insert the elements individually - while there's 
>>> only 100-200 entries per block, there's usually 20-50k segments.
>>> 
>>> Is there any way of forcing the engine to skip over duplicates and not 
>>> rollback the transaction on exception? Code's below. Using Postgres, with 
>>> psycopg2 as the driver.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>         engine.execute(Entry.__table__.insert(), entries)
>>> 
>>>         segment_list = []
>>>         for sub, entry in entry.items():
>>>             segments = entry.pop('segments')
>>> 
>>>             e = db.query(Entry)\
>>>                 .filter(Entry.sub==entry['sub'])\
>>>                 .filter(Entry.division==entry['division'])\
>>>                 .filter(Entry.created==entry['created']).first()
>>> 
>>>             for segment in segments:
>>>                 segment['entry_id'] = e.id
>>>                 segment_list.append(segment)
>>> 
>>>         engine.execute(Segment.__table__.insert(), segment_list)
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> In addition, is there some way to pre-fetch data? Rather than query for 
>>> each Entry, it'd be nice to pre-load all entries and save a couple hundred 
>>> queries.
>> 
>> you have all the entries in segment_list.  Seems like you'd just want to 
>> dedupe entries as they enter that list, that's a pretty simple thing to do 
>> with a dictionary.   but additionally you're also emitting a SELECT for 
>> every item individually so whatever time you're saving on that INSERT is 
>> just being expended with that huge number of SELECT statements anyway.
>> 
>> so yes you certainly want to pre-load everything, since the criteria here is 
>> three different things you can use a tuple-based IN clause.
>> 
>> below is an example that uses this and also batches so that it won't run out 
>> of memory under any circumstances, it starts with 50K rows in the database 
>> and then adds another 50K with 20K overlapping.  the whole thing runs in 
>> about 28 seconds on my mac.
>> 
>> from sqlalchemy import *
>> from sqlalchemy.orm import *
>> from sqlalchemy.ext.declarative import declarative_base
>> import random
>> import itertools
>> 
>> Base = declarative_base()
>> 
>> class Entry(Base):
>>     __tablename__ = 'a'
>> 
>>     id = Column(Integer, primary_key=True)
>>     sub = Column(Integer)
>>     division = Column(Integer)
>>     created = Column(Integer)
>>     __table_args__ = (UniqueConstraint('sub', 'division', 'created'), )
>> 
>> e = create_engine("postgresql://scott:tiger@localhost/test", echo=True)
>> Base.metadata.drop_all(e)
>> Base.metadata.create_all(e)
>> 
>> 
>> a_bunch_of_fake_unique_entries = list(set(
>>     (random.randint(1, 100000), random.randint(1, 100000), random.randint(1, 
>> 100000))
>>     for i in range(100000)
>> ))
>> 
>> entries_we_will_start_with = a_bunch_of_fake_unique_entries[0:50000]
>> entries_we_will_merge = a_bunch_of_fake_unique_entries[30000:100000]
>> 
>> sess = Session(e)
>> 
>> counter = itertools.count(1)
>> sess.add_all([Entry(id=next(counter), sub=sub, division=division, 
>> created=created)
>>                     for sub, division, created in 
>> entries_we_will_start_with])
>> sess.commit()
>> 
>> # here's where your example begins... This will also batch it
>> # to ensure it can scale arbitrarily
>> 
>> while entries_we_will_merge:
>>     batch = entries_we_will_merge[0:1000]
>>     entries_we_will_merge = entries_we_will_merge[1000:]
>> 
>>     existing_entries = dict(
>>                         ((entry.sub, entry.division, entry.created), entry)
>>                         for entry in sess.query(Entry).filter(
>>                                 tuple_(Entry.sub, Entry.division, 
>> Entry.created).in_([
>>                                         tuple_(sub, division, created)
>>                                         for sub, division, created in
>>                                         batch
>>                                 ])
>>                         )
>>                         )
>> 
>>     inserts = []
>>     for entry_to_merge in batch:
>>         existing_entry = existing_entries.get(entry_to_merge, None)
>>         if existing_entry:
>>             # do whatever to update existing
>>             pass
>>         else:
>>             inserts.append(
>>                 dict(
>>                     id=next(counter),
>>                     sub=entry_to_merge[0],
>>                     division=entry_to_merge[1],
>>                     create_engine=entry_to_merge[2]
>>                 )
>>             )
>>     if inserts:
>>         sess.execute(Entry.__table__.insert(), params=inserts)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
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