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> nope.  I'd need a complete, self-contained and succinct example I can run, 
> thanks
>

Ok, thanks.  This is a beefy one so that will be extremely tricky to 
extract.  I had hoped that the combo of lazy+joined would have been a clear 
indicator since they are opposite loading strategies.

Digging through the relationship definitions I thought it might be because 
the child_product relationship is explicitly declared with "lazy = True" 
('select') and (since I don't do that on other properties) I thought 
perhaps that was conflicting with the later joinedload request and 
confusing the strategy lookup.  However, I see that True/select is the 
default, and I explicitly request joinedload at query time on other 
relationships/properties without issue, so that can't be it.  I'm stumped 
again.



 

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