Never mind that last silly 0.7 question.  (Your patch is compatible it 
seems.)  (And pretend that you didn't hear any mention of 0.7)

Thanks again for your awesome software!
Kent


On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 3:42:55 PM UTC-4, Kent wrote:
>
>
>> dude!    it is 2017.   get on this client!   :)   I literally have to 
>> maintain this feature for you personally :). 
>>
>>
>>
> Hahaha!  If you could only feel my pain!  Unfortunately, there are 
> multiple clients still on 8i because they are stuck on it due to their 
> legacy application (which we are working hard to replace and get them on 
> PostgreSQL.)  (So, at least you know the 8i stuff is helping multiple 
> companies :)
>  
>
>> > 
>> > The cleanest approach is specifying that the 'primaryjoin' to the 
>> > relationship in the mapper should include an extra join clause.  I hate 
>> > doing this, but after many other approaches, I've found this is by far 
>> the 
>> > cleanest approach due to bad database design (which I can't control -- 
>> > legacy). 
>> > 
>> > Anyway, the attached script shows an simplified, analogous mock-up, 
>> which 
>> > works correctly when joins are ANSI and incorrectly with 
>> use_ansi=False. 
>> > 
>> > The script demonstrates an inconsistency in use_ansi True vs. False on 
>> > sqlalchemy version 1.1.14 (although my sqlalchemy is older). 
>> > 
>> > In the use_ansi=False SQL, the correct "fix" would be changing the 
>> rendered: 
>> > 
>> > AND bugs_1.deathdate IS NULL 
>> > 
>> > into 
>> > 
>> > AND bugs_1.deathdate(+) IS NULL 
>> > 
>> > This then matches the ANSI join and works on 8i (I've tested it). 
>> > 
>> > Is this something we can fix?  Since the column is on the remote table 
>> and 
>> > specified in the join condition, it really needs "(+)" after the column 
>> name 
>> > in SQL.  This accomplishes the same thing as the ANSI version placing 
>> this 
>> > join condition in the "ON ..." clause instead of the "WHERE". 
>> > 
>> > Alternatively, is there a hack I could use to fix the rendered SQL on 
>> > joinedloads for this particular relationship? 
>>
>> the miracle of Docker means that I now have easy to run Oracle, SQL 
>> Server, etc. databases anywhere I need them so I can quickly confirm 
>> that this works with ansi or not: 
>>
>> mapper(Rock, rocks_table, 
>>     properties={ 
>>         'livingbugs': relationship(Bug, 
>>             primaryjoin=and_( 
>>                 bugs_table.c.rockid == rocks_table.c.id, 
>>                 bugs_table.c.deathdate.op("(+)=")(null()), 
>>             )), 
>>         }) 
>>
>>
> I'll find a shield to hide behind and then dare to ask "Is there a way to 
> hack that fix on SqlAlchemy 0.7?"
>
> Thanks for looking at this!
> Kent
>

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