If you are using the legacy engine, that is, without "future=True" in
create_engine(), SQLAlchemy autocommits statements that have strings like
"CREATE TABLE", "INSERT", etc. This is called "library level autocommit", it's
deprecated and the whole thing is documented at
https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/14/core/connections.html#library-level-e-g-emulated-autocommit
On Sun, Apr 4, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Soumaya Mauthoor wrote:
> Hey Mike
>
> Sorry to be a pain but I finally got postgresql working on my laptop and I'm
> getting the same behaviour as for sqlite (see below). I'm obviously doing
> something wrong, any idea where? I'm writing an in-house tutorial on
> sqlalchemy for colleagues, including an explanation of why we set the
> Transaction Isolation Level to autocommit, so it would be great to have an
> example :-)
>
> >>> from sqlalchemy import text,create_engine
> >>> c =
> >>> create_engine('postgresql://***:***@localhost:5432/postgres').connect()
> >>> c.execute(text('create table test(col1 int)'))
> <sqlalchemy.engine.cursor.LegacyCursorResult object at 0x7ffc412b91f0>
> >>> del c
> >>> c =
> >>> create_engine('postgresql://***:***@localhost:5432/postgres').connect()
> >>> c.execute(text('select * from test')).fetchall()
> []
>
> Thanks
> Soumaya
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 1 avr. 2021 à 18:33, Soumaya Mauthoor <soumaya.mauth...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>> Ooooh I see thanks for clarifying :-)
>>
>> Soumaya
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, 17:34 Mike Bayer, <mike...@zzzcomputing.com> wrote:
>>> __
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Soumaya Mauthoor wrote:
>>>> Hello Mike
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for quick response! I don't have postgres installed right now so I
>>>> tried with sqlite, which is also autocommit by default. Example
>>>
>>> ahha - that's again a very specific quirk of the pysqlite driver that it
>>> does not autobegin the transaction if DDL is encountered, which is a bug in
>>> the driver, see https://bugs.python.org/issue9924
>>>
>>> This autocommit situation has been mostly unchanged since I first started
>>> SQLAlchemy in 2005. So I've been working with this behavior literally
>>> every day for sixteen years with a dozen or more DBAPI drivers. It's
>>> safe to trust I know what i am speaking of ! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> >>> from sqlalchemy import text, create_engine
>>>> >>> e = create_engine('sqlite:///foo.db')
>>>> >>> with e.connect() as conn: conn.execute(text('create table test(int
>>>> >>> col1)'))
>>>> ...
>>>> <sqlalchemy.engine.cursor.LegacyCursorResult object at 0x7f6257fba7c0>
>>>> >>> e.execute('select * from test').fetchall()
>>>> []
>>>>
>>>> I didn't commit the transaction, but it seems to have autocommited since I
>>>> can query it in the following query?
>>>>
>>>> Soumaya
>>>>
>>>> Le jeu. 1 avr. 2021 à 15:27, Mike Bayer <mike...@zzzcomputing.com> a écrit
>>>> :
>>>>> __
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, at 10:06 AM, sumau wrote:
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following advice from this article:
>>>>>> https://www.oddbird.net/2014/06/14/sqlalchemy-postgres-autocommit/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and because we run large, consecutive queries, we set our transaction
>>>>>> isolation level to 'autocommit' when connecting to our postgres DB. This
>>>>>> means we cannot create explicit transactions and use begin() and
>>>>>> commit():
>>>>>> https://www.oddbird.net/2014/06/14/sqlalchemy-postgres-autocommit/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has not a problem so far because we can create another (temporary)
>>>>>> connection when we do want to have a roll-backable transaction. However
>>>>>> since postgres DB is set to autocommit by default, I was wondering
>>>>>> whether setting the transaction isolation level to 'autocommit' was
>>>>>> needlessly complicated?
>>>>>
>>>>> the Python DBAPI is transactional by default and the "autocommit" feature
>>>>> of many DBAPIs is not part of the specification:
>>>>> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0249/ . the psycopg2 driver, as
>>>>> well as all other DBAPI drivers, are not in autocommit by default.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example in the example explained here: the
>>>>>> https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/14/tutorial/dbapi_transactions.html#getting-a-connection
>>>>>> the query will still be committed, even if don't explicitly commit the
>>>>>> transaction or the transaction isolation level to 'autocommit'.
>>>>>
>>>>> respectfully, that is incorrect for the DBAPI drivers included in
>>>>> SQLAlchemy, provided you aren't using MySQL with MyISAM tables. try it out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Soumaya
>>>>>>
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