No, It's OK, I value every piece of feedback, whether it be good or bad, that way I can learn from my mistakes and try and do better in the future.
Keep all your feedback coming, you are all being a great help. I thank you all for your time and patience. John. -----Original Message----- From: John Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 December 2005 15:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [sqlite] Final Year Project/Dissertation help required!!!! Give him a break! He is working smart, not hard. "Who cares whether the cat is black or white when you want to catch mice" - Deng Xiaoping. m christensen wrote: > I wouldn't be THIS hard on him, BUT... > > juan perez wrote: > >> So in a nutshell you are asking the community to do your homework. >> What a shame. >> >> Start by analyzing the sqlite3 command line interface, make a GUI >> that replicates that (and more, heck its a GUI), contribute it to the >> sqlite project, THEN talk about your dissertation. >> >> jp. >> > But, I'd presume the intent here is 'Experience' a software > development process. > > Design and build in a vacuum and see what the users think after it's > done, as suggested above, is an all too common and WRONG approach > IMHO. > I don't think you are INTENDING to 'ask us to do your homework' but I > don't think you have yet done the work you need to do before asking > opinions. Final project or real-world-work the issues are the same. > > Mr. Newby you appear to have failed to do basic research into your > market or users needs. > First assess the need for your project. > It would appear you are under the assumption there are no GUI tools > for sqlite. > A Google search like "sqlite GUI" shows otherwise. > > I DO think your general approach of asking people what they need or > want is a good one and could be quite enlightening although probably > not entirely along the lines you probably first expected. > > Do your research, figure out what YOU think the requirements and > options are. > > Ask some direct and possibly leading questions but be open to answers > that may not be what you expect. > > General open-ended questions may very well not spur any real discussion. > They often indicate you have not done your homework so-to-speak. > This applies even more in the 'Real World'. > I also see such questions in the real world as in indication of a > lack of commitment to the proposed project. > In short if YOU don't have the commitment to do your part FIRST why > should I spend a lot of time and effort on a response you may or may > not even look at before you flitter off to something else. > > Just like in the real world some people may support your pet project, > some may be hostile, some couldn't care less and some people think you > 'shouldn't bother them with the details or questions'. > You will need to learn to deal with this too, it's part of the job. > > Let's say you take this advice and look at "SQLite Analyzer" > > You then come back to this group with an intelligent question such as... > > "I noticed SQLite Analyzer has a drag-and-drop qry builder. Is this a > Feature anybody here would actually use?" > > Due to the fact most people here are developers I'd ASSume the answer > would be a resounding "NO. If you can't write a SQL Qry, you'd > probably be better off using Access or something..." > > Then someone may chip in "You know I have no need, but the end users > for my app sure COULD use a nice PDF-Generating GUI Report Builder > with a drag-and-drop Qry Builder..." > > I'd sure Hope the intent of your project is NOT 'Write a PROGRAM to do > X' but to truly 'Learn how to develop an application from inception > thru needs analysis to development, debugging, and final release and > to provide a usable tool.' > > This may not be an answer to the questions you thought you asked, but > IMHO it does provide "other information 'I' feel would help YOU on > YOUR journey" > > Marc > >> John Stanton wrote: >> >>> john.newby wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, I am doing my final year project/dissertation on "Creating a >>>> GUI to SQLite" >>>> >>>> I am after help for my analysis phase and would like any >>>> comments/help from members or if you could put me in the right >>>> direction as to where I could find out this information. >>>> >>>> I would like information regarding SQLite for the following if at >>>> all >>>> possible:- >>>> >>>> Why users use SQLite instead of other SQL databases? >>> >>> >>> >>> SQLite has two fine features. Firstly it is simple, lives in one >>> file and doesn't require a server process. Secondly it implements >>> all the important elements of SQL. >>> >>>> Would a GUI detract users from using SQLite? >>> >>> >>> >>> There is a wagon load of GUIs to SQLite already. They neither add >>> nor detract from the DBMS. >>> >>>> >>>> Regarding a GUI to SQLite:- >>>> >>>> What features a GUI MUST have? >>>> What features you would LIKE a GUI to have? >>>> What features you would NOT LIKE to have? >>> >>> >>> >>> This is like asking what features are needed in a coat without >>> specifying its intended usage. >>> >>>> >>>> Any help on these questions or any other information you may feel >>>> would help me on my journey would be greatfully appreciated. >>>> >>>> You can contact me at my University email address on >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Many thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> John. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== >>>> This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. 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